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tripod123 09-22-2008, 06:40 PM Poor Devin Thomas, he gets his first NFL touchdown overturned by a flagrant foul call that had nothing to do with the play. If i was him, i would have started to cry even though Heyer was just retaliating for the way #90 took down Portis two plays earlier.
I dont think that this touchdown should have been overturned and it should have been assessed on the kickoff ala Reggie Bush last week. Thoughts on the call????
This makes my first reply as a Warpath registered member.
I don't think we have to pity Devin at all. This guy will make us proud and he will get more opportunities to shine in the glory of the Skins. Thomas and Kelly appear to be bonified WRs that need the throws in their direction as the season progresses. Can't wait for the two of them to be in the same formation along with Santana and Cooley.
GoSkins! 09-22-2008, 10:16 PM I finally found a decent replay of it (NFL Video Galleries (http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80b02019), about 2:30 in, thanks to In Which We Attempt to Understand Why Heyer Was Flagged on Thomas' TD | Mr. Irrelevant (http://misterirrelevant.com/index.php/2008/09/22/in-which-we-attempt-to-understand-why-heyer-was-flagged-on-thomas-td/)), and watching it again, Portis hit Dockett, then Heyer no more than 1 second later hit him, with Portis watching on. Leads me to believe even more that it was a questionable call...
I'm going to try to stop obsessing over this but......
I was watching the game again and saw the penalty, again.
Two things:
1. Campbell was tackled by an Arizona defender just AFTER he threw the pass and AFTER Heyer made his hit. If the play was over, that would have been a penalty or a late hit. It clearly was not. Nobody on the field is supposed to quit on the play.
2. No hands to the face. Heyer shoved him (hard) with one hand on the chest and the other on the shoulder pad. Hard to believe that is unnecessary roughness while the play is going on. It's rough, but not illegal or dangerous. We are playing football not golf.
Larry Michael is Satan 09-22-2008, 10:49 PM After watching the video, I don't see what was illegal about that hit. It was during the play, and looked clean. Kick ass, Stephon! I'm glad Thomas is on the field, that 2nd PI call was pretty blatant, though, looked like vintage Michael Irvin.
hooskins 09-22-2008, 11:02 PM After watching the video, I don't see what was illegal about that hit. It was during the play, and looked clean. Kick ass, Stephon! I'm glad Thomas is on the field, that 2nd PI call was pretty blatant, though, looked like vintage Michael Irvin.
It was a blind side hit that looked dirty, but the play wasn't over and the ref didnt blow his whistle. But you can get called for unnecessary roughness during the play.
It was pretty bad, but should it have been assessed on the kickoff? I am not really sure, does anyone know the specific rules as to when that is done?
NM Redskin 09-23-2008, 12:00 AM The Heyer hit reminds me of that Reggie White hit years ago on a Green Bay lineman. Mccarthy and Reggie almost got into a fight. Wasn't that considered a cheap shot, but
also not against the rules?
Skinny Tee 09-23-2008, 02:09 AM What I like about this play is that it means our team is starting to build cohesion in that Heyer had Portis's back by unloading on that dude....you don't eff with family.
Seems like their building an on field bond. Seeing Portis jumping up and down after that block only makes me laugh because only lord knows what he's saying to Dockett as he goes horizontal.
Honestly the more I see the play the more I agree it was a BS call. I'm letting Heyer off the hook now.
gabe1984 09-23-2008, 10:10 AM I thought the hit was perfectly fine, didn't look to me like he hit him from behind, in the head, or after the play was over. Heyer was allowed to hit him.
Does anyone remember the play from 2002 when Warren Sapp hit that offensive lineman on Green Bay? Favre through a pic and the DB on the Bucs was running down the field. Sapp then hit this o-linemen who wasn't paying attention, who was not even near the ball, and knocked him off his feet. The guy had to be carted off the field, he was seriously injured during the hit. No flag was thrown because it was a legal hit
After the game Green Bay's coach went up to Sapp and had some words with him, I think it was McCarthy at the time.
Heyer's hit was similar in that it had nothing to do with the play, but it was still legal.
over the mountain 09-23-2008, 02:00 PM holy snickies JC was releasing the ball as heyer hit him. nice video find BD, the nfl videos are real gems.
i hope zorn sends this to the nfl, not to contest or argue it, but to just get a clarification as to what was a foul and why because if this play happens against one of our D lineman and it is not called i will freakin loose it. nothing i hate more than inconsistent officiating. i guess it has flag unneccesary roughness because the ref considered it a "blindside hit" but blindside hits as part of the play are legal right? i know you cant come in and blindside someone if they are standing near a pile up but this is different . ..
just really hope zorn seeks and gets clarification.
go skins!
dmek25 09-23-2008, 02:04 PM aren't we talking about football? just because someone stops, does that mean you have to stop also? no way that should have been a penalty. and i like the little bit of meanness Mr Heyer showed.
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