rypper11
09-22-2008, 10:09 AM
speaking of wrs,was malcolm kelly even active yesterday?
No, he was inactive.
As for Thomas being ignored, I don't think JC has any confidence in him to catch the ball. Plus, we don't know if he ran the right route or if JC didn't notice him because he didn't expect him to be there. I will say he needs to get off ST coverage. He seems to be running near the play often but doesn't put his pads on anyone. Plus it would probably speed up his offensive learning curve.
"Not true because Reggie Bush did his little mocking thing before the TD and his was assed on the kick off. It is BS! " - MRedskins
Taunting is a flagrant foul resulting in a 15 yd penalty but it is always enforced after the play. Unnecessary roughness is a different penalty. And how was he "assed"?
SBXVII
09-22-2008, 10:27 AM
#1: For some reason I thought it was #50 but ok #90 tackled Portis on the previous play and he tried to grind Portis's helmit into the ground after the play stopped. Portis got up mad and had a few words. I'm sure Portis probably said hey someone help me take him out the next play. The play in question was a play action, Portis ran up the middle and while a O-Lineman was on who I think was #90 Portis blasted him knocking him to the ground. I think he got up and was confronting Portis when Heyer hit him a second time.
#2: I truely believe the shot was clean. Campbell was scrambling to the right and had just released the ball when Heyer hit him. If your arguement is he was not near the ball you might have an arguement but the play was still going on. Part B to my believing it was a clean shot was the fact that Heyer did not hit him from behind he hit him from the D players right side. Yes he knocked him off his feet but it was not a cheap shot simply because the player was not looking at Heyer. Hell they even said on another game that if an interception is thrown everyone looks to take out the QB whether in the play or not.
I for one felt it should have been assessed on the kick off. My biased oppinion I know. I sorta felt that if the foul in any way resulted in us scoring then yes TD does not count but it had no bearing on the play and the play was still taking place meaning Campbell was scrambling and had just released the ball when the contact was made.
I just hope that from now on, on kick offs or punt returns when someone slams into a player from the side they call it unessessary roughness and back them up 15 yrs to half the distance.
Since everyone seems to be acknowledging that Heyer was looking for some revenge on that hit, I find it a little funny to see that people continue to think it was clean.
I can understand why it was flagged. It took place away from the ball and at that time guys were just kinda standing around when Heyer clocked him. A play like that is bound to draw some attention from the refs, especially if they were aware of the jawing back and forth between Portis and Dockett on previous plays, which I'm sure they were. It's just not a very smart play by Heyer, but that's just my opinion on it.
Paintrain
09-22-2008, 10:41 AM
It was a cheap shot, a good 10 yards away from the play and from behind. I thought the ball was away and it should have been assessed after the kickoff but since it wasn't a dead ball foul or an unsportsmanlike conduct I guess it had to negate the play. Either way it was pretty stupid, thank goodness we didn't need those 7 points.
J. Spanky
09-22-2008, 10:47 AM
bad move by heyer. bad call by the refs to negate the td. great move by the team to overcome. bad calls are part of the game; it is not an excuse for losing.
skinsfan69
09-22-2008, 10:54 AM
Heyer is a dumb ass for letting his emotions get the best of him. He put his team in a real bad spot on 1st-25. We were very fortunate to get a first down there and keep the drive going. We also got lucky cause Ken W. is a dumb ass too for punting the ball back to us on 4-4 from around mid field. Still shaking my head on that one.
EternalEnigma21
09-22-2008, 11:00 AM
Ya know, I don't think it was needed but I don't know what would make it illegal. I thought it was strange that no one was chasing down the live play on the D. Campbell was out of the pocket and had the ball, or was releasing it when the hit was made. Live play, I don't want guys just stamding around. Hit somebody.
FRPLG
09-22-2008, 11:16 AM
I was at the game and didn't see it because well I was looking about 70 yards downfield but from what I understand it was somewhat borderline. Not a smart move on Heyer's part but at least it shows some toughness on our part. I do like that. Now I don't want him to ever do it again but I'll take a win and look at the situation with some positivity. We're not out on the field to get pushed around. Considering that we've wanted Heyer to start getting more aggressive maybe this is just a sign that he is trying to rachet it up a bit.
SOUL-SKINS
09-22-2008, 11:27 AM
Thomas looked alot better. I feel pretty good about him.
KLHJ2
09-22-2008, 11:53 AM
The defender pulled off of Thomas when the ball was in the air. Read Campbell's eyes.
He was trailing him when he pulled off though. Thomas had a step or 2