If the election was held today

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jsarno
09-11-2008, 09:55 AM
You're kidding me right? The rest of the world likes Obama the best? That's a tick for him? Is this the same rest of the world who aren't sure who perpetrated 9/11?

That's a knock against him if you ask me.

(not saying this is Obama, but the antichrist would be liked by all)

MTK
09-11-2008, 10:01 AM
I'm voting against the pig and the fish. Though both sure are yummy on a plate.

MTK
09-11-2008, 10:02 AM
That's a knock against him if you ask me.

(not saying this is Obama, but the antichrist would be liked by all)

Huh? Care to elaborate on that a bit more?

vaoutlaws2006
09-11-2008, 10:03 AM
Is it me or have the last few presidential elections come down to trying to pick the lesser of two evils? I dont know which way to go on this one.

mredskins
09-11-2008, 10:04 AM
Is it me or have the last few presidential elections come down to trying to pick the lesser of two evils? I dont know which way to go on this one.


I agree it is very sad.

MTK
09-11-2008, 10:23 AM
I am just shocked that people have to go so far outta their way to find a "negative" when they could just look at policy. But hey it's just politics, Dems do it too and I hate it as well. Just this whole terrorist, not an-american, hates our country bs from the right really irritates me. I didn't mind the Kerry is a flip-flopper deal so much. This just seems like a low-blow.

I guess it's too much to ask the candidates to stick to the issues when the people clearly cannot.

Everyone hates the propaganda machine but it obviously works when you see people buying in to the stupidest shit.

KLHJ2
09-11-2008, 10:37 AM
I will keep this short and sweet.

If I still believed that our role and involvement in Iraq was necessary and we needed a strong Commander in Chief then I would be voting for McCain.

Right now America is in more debt that it ever has been, the value of the dollar is down, and the economy sucks (not to mention the value of my mutual funds). I am voting for Obama to get us out of this mess.

Fact: according to Ali Velshi of CNN "The economy is the strongest with a Democratic president and a Republican Congress"

saden1
09-11-2008, 10:49 AM
There's nothing wrong with being liked by your allies. I'm not saying we should take our cues from them but I am stating the obvious. It helps if the people we're dealing with have confidence in our leadership if you feel otherwise you're a sticks only person. If you still don't get it I recommend you read "The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People."

saden1
09-11-2008, 10:51 AM
That's a knock against him if you ask me.

(not saying this is Obama, but the antichrist would be liked by all)


Sorta like Hitler right?

MTK
09-11-2008, 10:52 AM
There's nothing wrong with being liked by your allies. I'm not saying we should take our cues from them but I am stating the obvious. It helps if the people we're dealing with have confidence in our leadership if you feel otherwise you're a sticks only person. If you still don't get it I recommend you read "The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People (http://www.amazon.com/Habits-Highly-Effective-People/dp/0743269519/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1221144568&sr=8-1)."

Covey is good stuff. You ever read anything from Ken Blanchard? I'm a big fan of both.

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