Redskins-Giants: Defensive Review

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hesscl34
09-08-2008, 12:10 PM
If you honestly saw no improvement, you either didn't watch the game very closely or you just have something against the guy.

Yep, that's it. I have something against Rogers. It's personal... :bdh:.

I watched the game and saw nothing other than what I've seen before. He did defend on occassion, but he also got beat... a lot. I'm reserving judgment until game 5. I think that will give him enough play time to really say if he's improved or not.

hesscl34
09-08-2008, 12:12 PM
Trust me, she's not going to listen. Good try though.

Pot calling the kettle black again?

MTK
09-08-2008, 12:13 PM
If you thought Rogers got beat a lot what did you think of Smoot then??

hesscl34
09-08-2008, 12:14 PM
Hess, trust me, the improvement is there.

If you don't have any games taped from 2006, I really can't show you the mistakes that CR was making back then, that he's not making now. But I can suggest you watch Packers-Vikings tonight. Hold Charles Woodson/Al Harris/Antoine Winfield to the same standard you hold Rogers to. I think you'll be surprised how often a top corner in the NFL gets beaten.

OK, I'll take your word for it and hope you are right.. but like I said I'm giving him until gamem 5 to be sure.

Paintrain
09-08-2008, 12:14 PM
Again, good analysis. You said no hits on Manning, referring to no times when he was hit just after releasing or what? I thought Doughty got to him just after the juggling completion to Plax.. Considering 2 starters were coming off of knee surgeries (that most had projected them out until October), one was missing (Springs) one was at about 80% health (Taylor) and one playing his first real football since January (Landry), maybe they didn't play so badly after all.

Now if Rogers can ever learn to catch the ball we may have something.

hesscl34
09-08-2008, 12:15 PM
If you thought Rogers got beat a lot what did you think of Smoot then??

He got beat, a lot.. but at least he got an interception. Even though our O did nothing with it.

GTripp0012
09-08-2008, 12:17 PM
Again, good analysis. You said no hits on Manning, referring to no times when he was hit just after releasing or what? I thought Doughty got to him just after the juggling completion to Plax.. Considering 2 starters were coming off of knee surgeries (that most had projected them out until October), one was missing (Springs) one was at about 80% health (Taylor) and one playing his first real football since January (Landry), maybe they didn't play so badly after all.

Now if Rogers can ever learn to catch the ball we may have something.Yeah. A hit refers to any time that Manning would be hit and go to the ground following a pass.

I didn't chart a hit, but based on how quickly the feed leaves the quarterback after the throw, that doesn't mean one never happened.

MTK
09-08-2008, 12:17 PM
Hey Gtripp, just curious did you chart the attempts vs. completions on our corners? I'd be interested to see the exact breakdown of how Rogers and Smoot did.

GTripp0012
09-08-2008, 12:18 PM
Great post GTripp!

If you do this for all the games, will you do a do a success rate summary for the major points of our past games so we can track progress (or regression)?

Thanks man!That was my plan when I started.

There's no way I'll be able to put as much time into all my reviews as I did this one, because I was charting all the formations and stuff and it took me 8 hours. But I'll definately be keeping track of success rate as the season goes along.

GTripp0012
09-08-2008, 12:19 PM
Hey Gtripp, just curious did you chart the attempts vs. completions on our corners? I'd be interested to see the exact breakdown of how Rogers and Smoot did.Yeah, I did. I didn't total those yet, and I have to run to class right now, but I should post those numbers sometime during MNF tonight.

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