JC is not what I thought.

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doughtydoubter
09-05-2008, 11:57 AM
Hey just because i dont like doughty doesnt mean i can support other people. my name on here used to be uhohjimoh

saden1
09-05-2008, 11:57 AM
Do you think Zorn is taking on too much this early on his head coaching career as not only head coach, but also offensive coordinator and QB coach?

I think you can multi-task and he really has nothing to do with the defensive side so his only job is to coach the offense as a unit and the QBs. The problem is he doesn't seem to know what he's doing. Cooley was hardly used and I'm think Cooley and Portis are the guy he would go to early and often.

The thing that really helped me lose confidence in him was clock management down two scores. Calling run plays and taking their time with 4 minuses left?

budw38
09-05-2008, 11:59 AM
[quote=davy;472897]Oh the irony!

A user named doughtydoubter appealing for folks not to give up on Campbell.
We did spend , 2 1st's , a 2nd and a 4th for Doughty ,, he should dominate ,,,,,, oh Thats what we gave up for JC ...... we better bring in some fresh blood on our O-DL's next year ,,,, they are not getting any younger .

over the mountain
09-05-2008, 12:09 PM
I don't want to come across as a JC apologist, but a big part of those things (reading defense, not staring down receivers, checking down, making quick decisions) have to do with comfort in the offense. As last season progressed, we saw less and less of that as he grew comfortable in Saunders system. He TRUSTED that people would be where they were supposed to be so he didn't have to stare them down. You don't hear the criticisms from knowledgeable football analysts (Jaws, Aikman) saying Campbell doesn't read defenses well, that's a fan thing. They've all said he needs to be more comfortable and process things faster, AS DO ALL YOUNG QB. He's made fewer than 25 starts, look at his progression vs. others at a similar stage and the sky isn't falling as quickly as you think.

Yeah i hear ya and im not saying the sky is falling; just saying in my fan opinion i dont see campbell exhibiting the necessary skills a quarterback needs to excel. My opinion isnt based on 1 game but from what ive seen from him since hes been here. Campbell is a good qb but until it starts to click in his head and he starts processing things faster (aka read a D pre-snap and make quick decisions) he wont be great and in this league you need a great qb to be a real threat.

Now if we didnt have a great core on D i would be running right next to chicken little!!

go skins!!!!

(ps i would be very disappointed if JC doesnt get to start the next 2 years)

GhettoDogAllStars
09-05-2008, 12:10 PM
Both lines sucked. Period.

Rhythm is invaluable for a QB and an offense. We couldn't pass protect for shit, and as a result we never got into a rhythm.

As for defense, our line was owned by the Giants. On top of that, we couldn't tackle that son of a bitch Jacobs -- dude's way too big and heavy for our small defense.

SmootSmack
09-05-2008, 12:11 PM
I think you can multi-task and he really has nothing to do with the defensive side so his only job is to coach the offense as a unit and the QBs. The problem is he doesn't seem to know what he's doing. Cooley was hardly used and I'm think Cooley and Portis are the guy he would go to early and often.

The thing that really helped me lose confidence in him was clock management down two scores. Calling run plays and taking their time with 4 minuses left?

According to Zorn, he wanted to use Cooley more but got hampered by false starts. The clock management issues were certainly disconcerting. That needs to be improved. On the bright side, no wasted time outs.

SmootSmack
09-05-2008, 12:13 PM
Hey just because i dont like doughty doesnt mean i can support other people. my name on here used to be uhohjimoh

Why did you change it? Better said, why did you add a second account?

MTK
09-05-2008, 12:15 PM
Hey just because i dont like doughty doesnt mean i can support other people. my name on here used to be uhohjimoh

Why did you create a new account? Just to change your name? I guess you haven't read the site guidelines because that's an offense that can get you booted.

pdid5000
09-05-2008, 12:20 PM
JC is our new PR (patrick ramsey). "give him a chance", "he's young", "give him another year". I want JC to succeed just as much as everyone else but i don't see it happening just like ramsey.

freddyg12
09-05-2008, 12:25 PM
I tried to read all of these posts but have to much work to do, so forgive me if I repeat something from another post.

Mike Wise's article in today's wash post really puts JC's dilema in perspective. He's in his 4th year & at a time when he's expected to realize his potential & have that 'break out year.' On the other hand, he's not only in a new system again, he's got a rookie head coach that has never called plays in the nfl before.

I understand people that say he's paid to perfom no matter what. That's true, but it doesn't make it any easier for him to have so many changes. My view of it is, why put it all on JC, the O looked bad in several respects other than some solid running plays.

Last night's problems unfortunately look to go well beyond JC.

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