JC is not what I thought.

collins ONLY played well because saunders called the plays....and it was a system collins has been in since wwii....if you stuck collins in this system we wouldnt have even posted a td...so all you collins lovers and campbell haters get it out of your system and face the fact that an aging collins would not come in and lead this team to the superbowl..neither would colt.
What dissapoints me about jason..is that we have had since feb to learn and nurture him. It was apparent to see everyones frustration....did you see portis telling zonr what he was doing wasnt working n the sideline? That to me shows that these players are like...umm ok..this is lame...not working

Between politics and Brunell banter, I think I'm gonna lose my mind.

Where's Ramsey when you need him? (Fight fire with fire right? :))

Seriously, what the fuck has this board become? This thread didn't start terribly, however, it somehow turns into Jason Campbell being called a bitch and people assigning political affiliations who are actually making decent points. STFU with your reactionary threads! This is quite possibly the worst thread I've ever seen on this site and it's got nothing to do with the idea behind the thread, just the manner in which it's being discussed.

A little advice to Matty: Just take knowledgeable out of the banner and make it a political site since that's the only thing you all talk about here anymore anyway.

Here's the question you have to ask:

Are Campbell's problems related to learning a new offense, or is he regressing in key facets of game play that would show up in any offensive scheme? According to the sideline reporter from NBC tonight (can't think of her name), Zorn said Campbell "has to read the defense." This is Campbell's fourth season in the league and Zorn has to remind him to do that?

It doesn't help that the same group of offensive linemen from last season apparently have all forgotten how to pass block.

Thats what really has me scratching my head. Since his first year he still doesnt know how to read a defense, not stare down his primary receiver, still cant check down to any other receiver and generally doesnt make quick decisions getting guys the ball in stride the second they are open. Its alot to ask but a quality starting NFL quarterback needs to have this down pat.

Now throw in the WCO where a qb needs to read a D and make quick decisions and we are forcing a round peg into a square hole. I still want JC to excel and he has this year and next to step it up when his contract runs out.

go skins!!!

Zorn is to blame for this game followed by the offensive line. What a pathetic display. I didn't like JC's play but then again when the play calling is shit you produce shit.

seriously...lets give campbell a game where he has time and the run/pass ratio gives him a chance to win the game and play like hes capable before we all decide to burn him to a cross and send him to be romos backup. He is only doing what his coach told him to do.
Dont hate

Zorn is to blame for this game followed by the offensive line. What a pathetic display. I didn't like JC's play but then again when the play calling is shit you produce shit.

Do you think Zorn is taking on too much this early on his head coaching career as not only head coach, but also offensive coordinator and QB coach?

i said it before...he needs to stop coaching the qbs and start coaching a team

i said it before...he needs to stop coaching the qbs and start coaching a team

With the way JC looked he might want to spend MORE time with him.

Thats what really has me scratching my head. Since his first year he still doesnt know how to read a defense, not stare down his primary receiver, still cant check down to any other receiver and generally doesnt make quick decisions getting guys the ball in stride the second they are open. Its alot to ask but a quality starting NFL quarterback needs to have this down pat.

Now throw in the WCO where a qb needs to read a D and make quick decisions and we are forcing a round peg into a square hole. I still want JC to excel and he has this year and next to step it up when his contract runs out.

go skins!!!

I don't want to come across as a JC apologist, but a big part of those things (reading defense, not staring down receivers, checking down, making quick decisions) have to do with comfort in the offense. As last season progressed, we saw less and less of that as he grew comfortable in Saunders system. He TRUSTED that people would be where they were supposed to be so he didn't have to stare them down. You don't hear the criticisms from knowledgeable football analysts (Jaws, Aikman) saying Campbell doesn't read defenses well, that's a fan thing. They've all said he needs to be more comfortable and process things faster, AS DO ALL YOUNG QB. He's made fewer than 25 starts, look at his progression vs. others at a similar stage and the sky isn't falling as quickly as you think.

seriously...lets give campbell a game where he has time and the run/pass ratio gives him a chance to win the game and play like hes capable before we all decide to burn him to a cross and send him to be romos backup. He is only doing what his coach told him to do.
Dont hate

Oh the irony!

A user named doughtydoubter appealing for folks not to give up on Campbell.


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