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Twilbert07 09-05-2008, 12:32 AM I agree totally; however, I would argue the Giants are not a good football team this year. We made them look pretty efficient but @ week 16 I will be very surprised if NY has a winning record. Sure they will have a better record than Zorn and Co. but that simply means they are less shitty.
I agree that the Giants won't tear it up. If they were a great football team, they would have beat us by 30 points or more, given the way we played. Our offense was pitiful.
skinsfan69 09-05-2008, 12:35 AM QBs set the tone, they run the offense.. he does NOT do that AT ALL. He sits and wonders and looks.. and then he throws.. You need a QB to lead and make plays and BE YOUR MAN. He's a sorry damn excuse for a QB.. ....
I'm obvioulsy not happy.. actually I'm PISSED. BENCH HIS ASS!
Hess it's plain as day you just don't like JC. For what ever reason. It's seems personal with you. If you watched the damn game you'd realize that some of the time wr's were not open. Some of the stuff was on him cause he needs to learn to come off to his 2nd and 3rd guys. Some of the time our o-line was being killed. Other times the wr's were running 6 yard patterns when it's 3-8. Some of it is on the coaching cause they should've had him in shotgun. Even though JC needs to play better, tonight was certainly not 100% on JC. But I'm sure you just want to blame it all on him cause you just don't like the guy.
DynamiteRave 09-05-2008, 12:37 AM Hess it's plain as day you just don't like JC. For what ever reason. It's seems personal with you. If you watched the damn game you'd realize that some of the time wr's were not open. Some of the stuff was on him cause he needs to learn to come off to his 2nd and 3rd guys. Some of the time our o-line was being killed. Other times the wr's were running 6 yard patterns when it's 3-8. Some of it is on the coaching cause they should've had him in shotgun. Even though JC needs to play better, tonight was certainly not 100% on JC. But I'm sure you just want to blame it all on him cause you just don't like the guy.
You mean never, right?
skinsfan69 09-05-2008, 12:38 AM And at the QB position, at WR, at head coach and at the secondary. They're NFL champs, and we're spinning our wheels - again.
Well when you have turnover like we do then sometimes it's going to show on the field. Right? Eli has been in one offense his whole career. He also has a stud in Plx. Burress and we just don't have that type of physical presence on the field. He made Eli look good on a couple throws. And while Eli is a better QB than JC he sure threw some terrible passes too.
skinsfan69 09-05-2008, 12:40 AM You mean never, right?
Pretty much.
hesscl34 09-05-2008, 12:46 AM Hess it's plain as day you just don't like JC. For what ever reason. It's seems personal with you. If you watched the damn game you'd realize that some of the time wr's were not open. Some of the stuff was on him cause he needs to learn to come off to his 2nd and 3rd guys. Some of the time our o-line was being killed. Other times the wr's were running 6 yard patterns when it's 3-8. Some of it is on the coaching cause they should've had him in shotgun. Even though JC needs to play better, tonight was certainly not 100% on JC. But I'm sure you just want to blame it all on him cause you just don't like the guy.
Give me a break. The only one that is taking this personal is the people that love JC and hate when I call him out. Why would it be personal for me? I don't know the guy.. and I all I want is for the Skins to win. I watch him play and he makes bad chioces. I see it time and again, and I watch every game. Other QBs have his issues with players and still seem to find a way to get that ball where it needs to be. If you all think JC is our guy, you have a VERY long road ahead.. a lot of loss and a lot of up and down BS games is what we have ahead of us. He just doesn't have what it takes to be a top QB in the NFL. You all don't like it, but that's what I see. It's not personal, it's just my opinion based on what I SEE. Football isn't personal, it's a game, a sport and something I love to watch. But it's a hell of a lot more fun to watch when we have a QB that knows what the heck to do!
SFREDSKIN 09-05-2008, 12:49 AM Give me a break. The only one that is taking this personal is the people that love JC and hate when I call him out. Why would it be personal for me? I don't know the guy.. and I all I want is for the Skins to win. I watch him play and he makes bad chioces. I see it time and again, and I watch every game. Other QBs have his issues with players and still seem to find a way to get that ball where it needs to be. If you all think JC is our guy, you have a VERY long road ahead.. a lot of loss and a lot of up and down BS games is what we have ahead of us. He just doesn't have what it takes to be a top QB in the NFL. You all don't like it, but that's what I see. It's not personal, it's just my opinion based on what I SEE. Football isn't personal, it's a game, a sport and something I love to watch. But it's a hell of a lot more fun to watch when we have a QB that knows what the heck to do!
Give JC a break, how many OC's has he had in the last 7 years? Would you rather start slow ass Collins (who would have been killed) or green as an apple Colt. Be realistic, JC is our one and only choice for this season.
hesscl34 09-05-2008, 12:52 AM Give JC a break, how many OC's has he had in the last 7 years? Would you rather start slow ass Collins (who would have been killed) or green as an apple Colt. Be realistic, JC is our one and only choice for this season.
Yes, I'd rather start Collins..
DynamiteRave 09-05-2008, 12:54 AM Yes, I'd rather start Collins..
If this kind of performance continues, so would I. Collins may be molasses but he has an accurate arm and good vision. Too bad it turns noodle when he has to throw a bomb but in a WCO system, you don't have to worry about that too much.
SFREDSKIN 09-05-2008, 12:55 AM Yes, I'd rather start Collins..
He looked lost and slow during the pre-season. He'd probably be more lost than Campbell grasping the Paul Brown offense (I hate the term WCO)
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