When will Jansen go?

I will say that Jansen is still a strong run blocker in this league. He's still capable of getting low and driving a guy just enough to open up a hole. But his pass protection skills appear to be completely gone.

That said, Heyer is definitely not an upgrade in pass protection, as others said he received way too much TE and RB help to be considered a reliable pass protector.

He and Jansen are about equal in pass protection at this stage - we're going to have to give either one of them a fair amount of help. But Jansen can still run block, so we stick with him.

If he still sucks this year and can't regain his form, it will definitely be time to draft some help at RT.

umm isnt that why we drafted rhinehart? they envision him to take over either the guard spot or tackle spot.

umm isnt that why we drafted rhinehart? they envision him to take over either the guard spot or tackle spot.

Kendall is older than Jansen. I think at the time, they envisioned him developing to replace Kendall at G, who is in the last year of his contract.

I don't think they envisioned Rinehart would replace Jansen, as the team has financially committed to Jansen for several more years.

So in the even the Skins decide to make Rinehart a permanent replacement for Jansen, we'll just need to draft a young G to take over for Kendall instead.

Either way, we're looking at drafting a young lineman next year, unless Jansen returns to form.

Lets not burn anybody at the stake yet...its preseason. I still stick to my firm belief that these guys played soft the other night to avoid getting hurt. Obviously Buges believes in hi and he is not a respected oline coach for nothing. Give him a few games....if he gets hurt again then we can start panicking.

3. Yes he's coming off a huge injury but how much time does he need?

I feel we can go round and round with the other comments, but this one stuck out to me to say something.
He needs more than a meezly 3 preseason games after having a season ending injury...to think otherwise is incredibly impatient. As others pointed out, Jansen is always a slow starter. But you totally missed a HUGE point...you either believe in Zorn or you don't. Do you, or don't you?

you either believe in Zorn or you don't. Do you, or don't you?Don't oversimplify the argument. We can believe in Zorn as a coach, but disagree with certain decisions he makes. At least I HOPE we can, because otherwise, the first time he f's up, there's going to be 1,000,000 Fire Zorn threads.

Don't oversimplify the argument. We can believe in Zorn as a coach, but disagree with certain decisions he makes. At least I HOPE we can, because otherwise, the first time he f's up, there's going to be 1,000,000 Fire Zorn threads.

While that is true, you still need to have faith that Zorn is going to put the best players on the field. It really is THAT simple.

While that is true, you still need to have faith that Zorn is going to put the best players on the field. It really is THAT simple.I think by and large, he will. I would expect that of a head coach in the NFL.

I don't expect him to be perfect in that regard, as none of us would be.

I will say that Jansen is still a strong run blocker in this league. He's still capable of getting low and driving a guy just enough to open up a hole. But his pass protection skills appear to be completely gone.

That said, Heyer is definitely not an upgrade in pass protection, as others said he received way too much TE and RB help to be considered a reliable pass protector.

He and Jansen are about equal in pass protection at this stage - we're going to have to give either one of them a fair amount of help. But Jansen can still run block, so we stick with him.

If he still sucks this year and can't regain his form, it will definitely be time to draft some help at RT.

A strong argument to keep JJ as the starter, but IMO it also highlights how weak we are evidently at this position when a guy who's a huge liability is still better than the alternatives. I don't know if this situation should be chalked up to poor judgment among the decision-makers or maybe a lack of legitimate starters in the draft/free-agency. Either way it's def hard to swallow for me as a fan.

I still play him, randy, and samuels and rabach have been playing not to get hurt before the big game. Jansen gets beat sure, but so does samuels so does every tackle in this league, Lets out this thread to rest until the first game when he gets injured again! The we can bitch!