When will Jansen go?

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ChillWill
08-25-2008, 05:50 PM
Just watched the Chris Samuels interview on Redskins.com and he attributed the JP punk job to poor technique, specifically bad hand placement. It sure appears that this O-Line cannot afford one day without Joe Bugel. They throw all technique out of the window. Rabach got handled as well. So far the good news is that Randy Thomas has looked good coming off of his injuries last year. That aside Jansen has not played well for years. I think his days as a RT are over. Ask any DE in the league that has played him over the last 4 years. In fact ask are own DE's. He does not look good in practice either. Let's just be honest for once. He's a great leader but the tape does not lie. I've rewatched the preseason film and it does not matter who he is lined up against in pass coverage he get's handled.

MTK
08-25-2008, 07:08 PM
Am i wrong? but didnt Parcells say that Jansen was done 3-4 years ago? He is a pretty good talent evaluator. If Jansen keeps playing the way he has been, then we might see Colt alot sooner than we expected.

Yeah, tuna hit the ball out of the park on his pre-draft opinion of Chris Cooley too.

Riggo44
08-25-2008, 07:25 PM
Yeah, tuna hit the ball out of the park on his pre-draft opinion of Chris Cooley too.

What did he say about Cooley?

MTK
08-25-2008, 07:33 PM
Bill Parcells Might Want That One Back | Larry Brown Sports (http://larrybrownsports.com/football/bill-parcells-chris-cooley/)

skinsfan69
08-25-2008, 07:41 PM
Jansen's injury last year wasn't something that could've been prevented. He got rolled up on. Just bad luck. So I wish people would stop calling him injury prone. However from what I've seen so far he simply can't pass block anymore. I can't even imagine what Tuck is going to do to this guy a week from Thurs. We'd better start running the ball, stop sending out 5 guys and max protecting.

GTripp0012
08-25-2008, 07:58 PM
Jansen's injury last year wasn't something that could've been prevented. He got rolled up on. Just bad luck. So I wish people would stop calling him injury prone. However from what I've seen so far he simply can't pass block anymore. I can't even imagine what Tuck is going to do to this guy a week from Thurs. We'd better start running the ball, stop sending out 5 guys and max protecting.I think, the best news about next week, is that Jansen should get a lot of help to neutralize Tuck now with Osi out for the year.

Skinz4life
08-25-2008, 08:00 PM
I don't think Heyer has looked much better than Jansen so far this preseason, after last year I really felt that he might push Jansen for the starting RT job. As far as Samuel's goes I am not to concerned, Zorn said in his press conference that he was fine outside of the play.

The Goat
08-25-2008, 09:25 PM
Thanks a million Beastsofthe... Not only am I forced to watch the trainwreck that is John Jansen now I'm reminded that we're paying the guy like he's one of the best RT in pro football - this for a guy I think any honest observer realizes wouldn't get the league min from the other 31 teams.

If he's the best option we've got at RT my grade of the draft/off-season has to drop. On the other hand, I think we'll know whether he's the best option fairly soon. Already injured and looking more arthritic every day, I can't see JJ playing a full game in the regular season - easy prediction.

jsarno
08-26-2008, 12:21 AM
I just don't get all the hate.
1- good tackles are hard to come by.
2- Jansen KNOWS the position VERY well.
3- He's coming off a huge injury, and needs time (yet another reason NOT to watch preseason games)
4- If he truly has nothing left, I doubt Zorn / Bugel would be dumb enough to allow him to start at tackle and hurt the team. Either you have faith in Zorn or you don't. I haven't exactly been a Zorn advocate, but I certainly am giving him a long enough leash that includes quite a few games...regular season that is.

doughtydoubter
08-26-2008, 11:03 AM
Well said Jsarno. Tackles are hard to come by, and the team is doing the right things with Heyer and Rhinehardt in the wings developing.
Dont hate, even the best tackles get beat. Personally im more worried about rabach getting dominated in the preseason than jansen.

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