When will Jansen go?

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Slingin Sammy 33
08-25-2008, 03:44 PM
My question is why are some people so eager to run him out of town?
Big contract probably.

I haven't gone through all the threads after the debacle on Sat., but so far I've seen Jansen getting run out of town, but not much mention of Samuels getting MANHANDLED by Julius Peppers. Maybe we should get rid of Samuels too? (sarcasm)

There sure wasn't a cry for Jansen's head when we were 3-0 and the starting O was looking solid. Is the guy playing at a high level, not really, but he's not ready for the trash bid either.

jsnyder03
08-25-2008, 04:04 PM
I have been a big fan of the original "Rock" (before Cartright came) as a guy who played every game and, even as a rookie, handed Strahan admirably. But I must agree that it haa been quite a while since he performed like a stud.

With his big salary, you can't help but wonder if that $ might be better spent elsewhere. However, I know we can't free ourselves of his contract. There is about a $14m release fee this year (per crazy canuck).

I wonder if we can get creative NEXT year. If he were to retire could we recoup that signing bonus money and then hire him as an expenses o-line coach? His work ethic and lockerroom presence are great, just not his on field performce these days.

CRedskinsRule
08-25-2008, 04:28 PM
What a hater thread. Jansen deserves every chance to come back and see how he plays. Our line has been decent and when Jansen and Samuels are on top of their game it is among the best. Again, with out hating on Campbell to bad, the problem is getting rid of the ball in 3 seconds, not pass protecting for 10.

firstdown
08-25-2008, 04:36 PM
Big contract probably.

I haven't gone through all the threads after the debacle on Sat., but so far I've seen Jansen getting run out of town, but not much mention of Samuels getting MANHANDLED by Julius Peppers. Maybe we should get rid of Samuels too? (sarcasm)

There sure wasn't a cry for Jansen's head when we were 3-0 and the starting O was looking solid. Is the guy playing at a high level, not really, but he's not ready for the trash bid either.
People have been hitting on Jansen sense preaseason started so its not just this one game. If I'm correct Samuels name was only called once when Peppers ran right through him but there could have been more.

jgalecpa
08-25-2008, 04:39 PM
I try to ignore the players' contract in evaluating them, especially after the 53 man roster has been set.

The best player should play, regardless of their pay.

If he is the best we have for now, play him.

History does show he is injury prone, no matter how well he plays when he's not hurt.

That has to be a determinant in how long we keep him around after this year.

I'd say if he's out more than 4 games this year with injuries, he won't be around next year.

J-Dawg.

Paintrain
08-25-2008, 04:50 PM
I'm not at the same level of anger/hatred as the OP, I'm kinda tired of seeing Jansen playing like he's on roller skates. It's been a few (2003?) years since he's been healthy and a standout. He's serviceable at best right now. Thankfully the best pass rushers we'll face in the division (Cole, Ware, Tuck) all play over the LT so that's not too much of a concern but Heyer needs to get up to speed rather quickly cause Jansen's demise isn't going to be pretty or gradual.

Stacks42
08-25-2008, 04:52 PM
Am i wrong? but didnt Parcells say that Jansen was done 3-4 years ago? He is a pretty good talent evaluator. If Jansen keeps playing the way he has been, then we might see Colt alot sooner than we expected.

Dirtbag59
08-25-2008, 05:02 PM
Big contract probably.

I haven't gone through all the threads after the debacle on Sat., but so far I've seen Jansen getting run out of town, but not much mention of Samuels getting MANHANDLED by Julius Peppers. Maybe we should get rid of Samuels too? (sarcasm)

There sure wasn't a cry for Jansen's head when we were 3-0 and the starting O was looking solid. Is the guy playing at a high level, not really, but he's not ready for the trash bid either.


I'll admit I'm slightly worried about the Samuals getting manhandled by Peppers situation (I haven't had the guts nor the motivation to download the game and see for myself) but from what I understand, Pepers is a man on a mission after amassing only 2.5 sacks last year in 14 games (yes THE Jullius Peppers). In fact some might say he's walking into a Ben Rothesberger type situation this year, though from what I know he's never been on a motorcycle.

So it might have been more of a combination of Samuals lack of motivation in a preseason game combined with Peppers overwhelming desire to prove himself again (which he had a chance to do this weekend against a guy of Samuals caliber in the preseasons only half game).

In the end though I'm kind of glad we got our ass kicked this week. My Dad use to always talk about how he was happy that Maryland went through the same things before March Madness during the year they won they title, and in this case it's happening during the preseason so at least the loss won't sting to bad.

SFREDSKIN
08-25-2008, 05:38 PM
The game against Carolina was an aberration, the players and coaches are trying to get over Joe Bugel's daughter dying. People forget these guys are human, remember last year against Buffalo the infamous Gibbs timeout mistake? This guys are human, I wouldn't be surprised if Holly's death didn't linger from last years tragic events.

freddyg12
08-25-2008, 05:40 PM
I knew a thread like this had to pop up at some point.

I truly hope jansen can get it together, but he has struggled in pass pro & that's not surprising given his age, injuries. Maybe he'll regain form later in the year, but how long will they wait for that?

I think you have to pose the question in relation to the entire o line, can Rinehart take Kendall's job later in the year? How ready is Heyer?

I actually think there is a chance they move Jansen inside to play guard in the future. That might save his career. He'd be good at pulling & he can still run block well.

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