Hey, the sun did rise this morning!

To throw it away you have to be out of the pocket, I didn't see many opportunities for that. He had someone in his face on nearly every pass attempt it seemed.

When you have time to pump fake twice, you have time to throw the ball.

^^ yup that was one of the knocks on him when we drafted him. i too thought he would have been trained to hold the ball higher up after so much attention was given to it by gibbs. hopefully zorn will get it done.

Awful performance by all, hard to tell if it was the WRs not being open, the OL just stinking it up, or JC not making reads and releasing quickly enough. That aside, my biggest conern with JC is that damn long release. He brings the ball down to his waist before getting it out, I know old habits are hard to break, but I was hoping Zorn would've had him broken of that one by now. Ball held too low by QB = fumble.

All of the above.. He had no shot to complete those balls, the WR were locked down and the OL was 6 inches from his face from being pushed back..

[QUOTE=hesscl34]When you have time to pump fake twice, you have time to throw the ball.[\QUOTE]

The play where he 'double pumped' he was looking for Moss who slipped and then moved on to Cooley who was double covered. On a 3 step drop, it's not designed for you to have a bunch of time, get it and get it out. His options were compromised so would you rather a sack or pick 6?

All of the above.. He had no shot to complete those balls, the WR were locked down and the OL was 6 inches from his face from being pushed back..

[quote=hesscl34]When you have time to pump fake twice, you have time to throw the ball.[\QUOTE]

The play where he 'double pumped' he was looking for Moss who slipped and then moved on to Cooley who was double covered. On a 3 step drop, it's not designed for you to have a bunch of time, get it and get it out. His options were compromised so would you rather a sack or pick 6?

I'd rather he throw it away when he feels the heat.

[quote=Paintrain;467703]All of the above.. He had no shot to complete those balls, the WR were locked down and the OL was 6 inches from his face from being pushed back..



I'd rather he throw it away when he feels the heat.

Intential grounding is penalty in this league. You can't always throw it away.

Intential grounding is penalty in this league. You can't always throw it away.
Exactly! When faced with the options of sack, INT or penalty, I'll take a sack damn near every time.

[quote=hesscl34;467744]

Intential grounding is penalty in this league. You can't always throw it away.

I'm not buying it... 4 sacks and no throw away? Not even one? I'm sorry but there's no excuse.. not even made up ones.

I said it before... did he even have any time to get out of the pocket to throw it away on some of those sacks? If he did I didn't see it.

As I recall, in at least two of the sacks he was barely away from the line before getting taken down. In another, Peppers rather infamously manhandled Samuels right into JC's back with Samuels barely slowing him down. Don't remember the 4th.

Also telling is the O-Line's response. Not even a hint of "it's a team thing, we have to block, WR's have to get open and QB's have to get rid of it." Instead, its "We got embarrased, manhandled, it was all us."

Maybe Campbell, from a standing position and unable to set his feet b/c the DL is immediately on top of him, can muscle it high out of bounds in the general direction of a receiver (about the only place that is safe and not a penalty on those types of plays). More likely, given the proximity of the lineman, his arm gets hit or he gets hit and he loses the ball or it goes up for grabs.

This was all the O-Line. I hope they got it out of their system.

I think it was a combination of the oline playing soft, due to being scared of getting hurt, and the wide receivers just not being able to get open.
Zorn even said himself on 2 of the four sacks..."no chance" for campbell to do anything.