Joe2 Legacy2 will be?

One of failure in which his lack of a Superbowl will dominate any achievement?
Moderately successful, characterized by two playoff seasons, in spite of some............substancial situations encountered along the way (ex ST's early departure form earth, etc)?
One that is still playing out as this is still basically his team, and may be molded in his image for some time to come as he tutored The Dan, and Vinny in the ways of The Force (which we are realizing today)?

I think it's somewhere in between the second and third one you have listed. Joe Gibbs restored stability to this franchise. I was a pretty big critic of Gibbs during his tenure, I always respected his first stint, but to me, he was a new coach when he came back. Joe may not have delivered a Super Bowl, but he did deliver a team who is poised, with a little more guidance to become a pretty good one for a long time.

I don't know whether Snyder matured as an owner because of Gibbs or not, but the approach taken this offseason was refreshing and I was glad to see it. If we credit Gibbs with that, then his second tenure was an overwhelming success. He single handedly changed the culture of the Washington Redskins.

Regardless of his W-L record, he restored order to a franchise that was becoming an embarassment.

If Jason Campbell turns out to be our franchise quarterback, then he pretty much saved the franchise

If Jason Campbell turns out to be our franchise quarterback, then he pretty much saved the franchise

Too bad Gibbs never gave any of the newbie QBs (Ramsey and Campbell) any chance to start. Granted, Ramsey is probably a dud, but Gibbs should have never put his faith on #8. He should've put JC in as soon as #8 screwed up, and help him develop.

Honestly, to me Joe 2 would be "should've, could've, would've".

If Jason Campbell turns out to be our franchise quarterback, then he pretty much saved the franchise

What he said. Other than that we drafted very well and had way way way too conservative of an offense.

If Jason Campbell turns out to be our franchise quarterback, then he pretty much saved the franchise

Even without Campbell's success, he already saved the franchise.

The years without him were PAINFUL and a little embarrassing.

Have you noticed how much smarter Snyder and his staff have become at assessing players and football decisions in general since Gibbs came back?

Snyder went from being a good businessman and horrible football owner to being one of the better all-around owners in the league.


Gibbs returned our pride in our team and brought us back to the relevancy in the NFL we've always known but temporarily lost.

I think it's somewhere in between the second and third one you have listed. Joe Gibbs restored stability to this franchise. I was a pretty big critic of Gibbs during his tenure, I always respected his first stint, but to me, he was a new coach when he came back. Joe may not have delivered a Super Bowl, but he did deliver a team who is poised, with a little more guidance to become a pretty good one for a long time.

I don't know whether Snyder matured as an owner because of Gibbs or not, but the approach taken this offseason was refreshing and I was glad to see it. If we credit Gibbs with that, then his second tenure was an overwhelming success. He single handedly changed the culture of the Washington Redskins.

Regardless of his W-L record, he restored order to a franchise that was becoming an embarassment.

What he said (except I wasn't a big critic)

I'd say he did moderately successful as head coach during his second tenure, but his real impact came by reshaping the roster into something formidable by getting rid of mostly everyone that Spurrier brought in. He brought us back to respectability in the NFL, and he set up Jim Zorn for future success with the roster. No we're not one of the elite teams in the league but he set us up so that in the future we can be.

I think people may not realize just what Gibbs did for this franchise in this second tenure. I realize a lot of it didn't necessarily convert to a lot of wins on the field, but he certainly put Jim Zorn in a great position to have the best opportunity to succeed.

If anything, I think Gibbs being here in his second tenure gave Redskins fans a reason to think more optimistically about the team.

Too bad Gibbs never gave any of the newbie QBs (Ramsey and Campbell) any chance to start. Granted, Ramsey is probably a dud, but Gibbs should have never put his faith on #8. He should've put JC in as soon as #8 screwed up, and help him develop.

Honestly, to me Joe 2 would be "should've, could've, would've".


He did give Ramsey a chance. He stunk it up. Remember that 80 yard TD pass to Moss during year one? After that, Ramsey fell apart.