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Jamaican'Skin 08-19-2008, 12:40 PM Last time I checked Collins lead the Skins on an amazing end of the season win streak last year that put the team into the playoffs. If memory serves a lot of people on this site said the team would be screwed if TC had to play any significant amount of time (some wanted him gone because they thought he stunk in preseason, he did, and so much for preseason being a predictor of anything) and as it turned out he was the player that salvaged the season.
I don't think that you can put that squarely on the shoulders of TC tho. I believe it was a total team effort. CP put the team on his back running the ball, and TC knew Saunder's offense better than JC so he could run it better. Wiht a new O being installed, I look for TC to struggle if placed in the same situation.
Funny how you don't find JC critics calling you all RETARDED, in need of a straight jacket, or losing your minds for loving him so much. Where's the respect for having an opinion, even if it doesn’t agree with your own? Just my... :twocents:
Because it wasn't even a rationale opinion to begin with.
Funny how if you aren't a JC critic, you must love him.
It's not quite not black and white.
hesscl34 08-19-2008, 01:03 PM Because it wasn't even a rationale opinion to begin with.
Funny how if you aren't a JC critic, you must love him.
It's not quite not black and white.
Can't win, so I'll get off the "short bus"... as you called it.
DirtyLandry 08-19-2008, 01:03 PM Every year the "experts" pick Dallas to win the NFC. Every year the "experts" are wrong. The "experts" say they have 13 probowlers on thier roster. Probowl doesn't mean S#!%! It's a stupid popularity contest. They have NO depth behind TO at wideout, Romo CHOKES in big games, they sign overrated players like Tank Johnson and Adam Jones, Roy Williams couldn't cover your grandma and they have a hack head coach! What makes people think they're even gonna win the division?!?!?!
JLW428 08-19-2008, 01:04 PM Because it wasn't even a rationale opinion to begin with.
Funny how if you aren't a JC critic, you must love him.
It's not quite not black and white.
Well put Matty
irish 08-19-2008, 01:20 PM I don't think that you can put that squarely on the shoulders of TC tho. I believe it was a total team effort. CP put the team on his back running the ball, and TC knew Saunder's offense better than JC so he could run it better. Wiht a new O being installed, I look for TC to struggle if placed in the same situation.
Of course every win (and loss) is a team effort but it was obvious that once TC came in the offense's tempo was much quicker because he could get the ball out on passes which opened things for CP's running. TC wasnt the sole reason for the run but he was absolutely the catalyst.
BTW, TC struggled mightily in preseason which is why IMO he wasnt the starter. It turns out he could run Saunders O better than JC but in preseason it didnt look that way.
My point is, to say that having TC come in for JC is a major downgrade at QB is completely false. The evidence just does not support that prediction.
sandtrapjack 08-19-2008, 01:20 PM Every year the "experts" pick Dallas to win the NFC. Every year the "experts" are wrong. The "experts" say they have 13 probowlers on thier roster. Probowl doesn't mean S#!%! It's a stupid popularity contest. They have NO depth behind TO at wideout, Romo CHOKES in big games, they sign overrated players like Tank Johnson and Adam Jones, Roy Williams couldn't cover your grandma and they have a hack head coach! What makes people think they're even gonna win the division?!?!?!
What makes you think that anyone else will win the East?
You have an opinion on why the Cowboys should not win. How about an opinion on why anyone else will.
Can't win, so I'll get off the "short bus"... as you called it.
Win what?
If you really believe the difference between JC and TC is really 6 games in the W column then you're right, this conversation is over.
hesscl34 08-19-2008, 01:28 PM Win what?
If you really believe the difference between JC and TC is really 6 games in the W column then you're right, this conversation is over.
When did I say I agreed with that? .. I don't. My argument was about respecting other's opinions when they are different from your own....
When did I say I agreed with that? .. I don't. My argument was about respecting other's opinions when they are different from you own....
I figured since you were bowing out you must have agreed with his take, coupled with your doubt of JC's abilities. My bad.
I respect other's opinions as long as they are logical and rationale and bring something to the table worthy of discussion.
Otherwise it's garbage in, garbage out.
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