RI: Taylor Puts on a Defensive Show

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ChillWill
08-13-2008, 10:29 AM
The same Heyer who got burnt like crisp toast in the playoffs last year and was thrown around like a wet rag.

I'm hoping that this will not be one soggy side of the field this year. As I watched that playoff game it sure seems like Stephon needed more help to chip that DE. I'm sure Buges will get them ready cause the Giants will certainly give us an indication of where we are.

GTripp0012
08-13-2008, 11:02 AM
Let's not get all up in arms over this. Jason Taylor is a much better pass rusher than Jon Jansen ever was a pass blocker. That's all there is to this.

Jansen will be able to handle non-Taylor left ends just fine.

In fact, here's who he will be blocking this year: Justin Tuck, Charles Grant, Victor Adeyanju, Darren Howard/Chris Clemons, Greg Ellis, Bertrand Berry, Willie McGinest, DeWayne White, James Harrison/Lawrence Timmons, Patrick Kerney, Jarrett Johnson, Antwaan Odom, and Justin Smith. Out of all those guys, only Tuck, Grant, White, Johnson, and Odom are in their primes. Tuck might give Jansen fits, but the rest of the year, he's more than capable of picking up his assignments.

Maybe we'll need a new tackle next year, but we're okay this year, at least for now.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha
08-13-2008, 11:12 AM
Thanks for the informative post GTripp. I am, however, a little more pessimistic about Jansen. Justin Tuck, Charles Grant, Greg Ellis, Bertrand Berry, and Patrick Kerney are all better DEs than Jansen is an OT.

Jansen has been MIA lately, but, in the limited action I've seen him in, he has looked bad. He looked bad last preseason and he's looked sub-par this preseason. I'm pretty concerned about him.

firstdown
08-13-2008, 11:20 AM
For the Heyer supporters there was a clip on NFLN not too long ago and JT schooled him too.
If I'm correct JT has never had a sack against the Skins.

firstdown
08-13-2008, 11:24 AM
I'm hoping that this will not be one soggy side of the field this year. As I watched that playoff game it sure seems like Stephon needed more help to chip that DE. I'm sure Buges will get them ready cause the Giants will certainly give us an indication of where we are.
I was just kind of repeating what was said about Jansen and saying it about Heyer. I think even though Heyer had a bad playoff game I think he is going to be fine this year and will see the field alott.

Miller101
08-13-2008, 11:27 AM
Is it possible to be both happy and concerned about this? A wet rag for a starting tackle....not so good. It'll be nice seeing McNabb, Manning and Romo all get crushed this year though.

I'm not concerned. Jansen is a big dude and a fierce competitor. He's gonna get Taylor back for that one! Don't know how, but he will!

redsk1
08-13-2008, 11:37 AM
I'll take my chances w/ Jansen even though he seems like he has struggled a little this preseason.

I'll echo that all the Heyer supporters out there better hope Heyer doesn't get in b/c he's just not ready. A good prospect but has had issues too.

GTripp0012
08-13-2008, 11:45 AM
Thanks for the informative post GTripp. I am, however, a little more pessimistic about Jansen. Justin Tuck, Charles Grant, Greg Ellis, Bertrand Berry, and Patrick Kerney are all better DEs than Jansen is an OT.

Jansen has been MIA lately, but, in the limited action I've seen him in, he has looked bad. He looked bad last preseason and he's looked sub-par this preseason. I'm pretty concerned about him.I am also concerned, but I look at it this way: Jansen's struggles in pass pro have stood out like a sore thumb. Of course, that's only half the game, as his run blocking has been impressive enough thus far to go unnoticed.

Additionally, a lot of left ends in the NFL still have their first priority to anchor against the run. What the Colts have done is leading a revolution of sorts, getting two smaller ends to get pressure on the QB in an ever passing league, but our schedule features a lot of guys who are older and aren't really a threat to consistently beat Jansen in the same way that Uminorya owned Winston Justice last year.

Since the true pass rushers he will be facing are few and far between, his old player skills should translate into a somewhat effective season.

For the record, if Jansen is going to get replaced, I'd like to see Rinehart get the first crack. I would feel great about it if we went into 2009 with Rinehart starting at RT given the success that guys like Sean Locklear and David Diehl have had switching from G to T.

skinsfan69
08-13-2008, 11:59 AM
The same Heyer who got burnt like crisp toast in the playoffs last year and was thrown around like a wet rag.

Exactly. Heyer got his ass handed to him at Seattle. Kerney owned him. But after watching Jansen in the limited amount he's played, his pass blocking lookes weak. But he was awesome in the run game against Buffalo.

skinsfan69
08-13-2008, 12:02 PM
I am also concerned, but I look at it this way: Jansen's struggles in pass pro have stood out like a sore thumb. Of course, that's only half the game, as his run blocking has been impressive enough thus far to go unnoticed.

Additionally, a lot of left ends in the NFL still have their first priority to anchor against the run. What the Colts have done is leading a revolution of sorts, getting two smaller ends to get pressure on the QB in an ever passing league, but our schedule features a lot of guys who are older and aren't really a threat to consistently beat Jansen in the same way that Uminorya owned Winston Justice last year.

Since the true pass rushers he will be facing are few and far between, his old player skills should translate into a somewhat effective season.

For the record, if Jansen is going to get replaced, I'd like to see Rinehart get the first crack. I would feel great about it if we went into 2009 with Rinehart starting at RT given the success that guys like Sean Locklear and David Diehl have had switching from G to T.

I don't think we'll see Rinehart at RT. He's probably going to take over for Kendall.

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