CPAlltheWay012
08-11-2008, 06:05 PM
Does he have a shotgun formation?
I have not noticed anything thus far in the preseason, and it's my opinion that the shotgun is favorable in certain situations.
I know that the WCO uses more short quick step drops by the quarterback, but some coaches sometimes resort to the shotgun formations.
This question might be a little premature considering we haven't dove into the system's depth just yet, but I'm curious. :silly:
SmootSmack
08-11-2008, 06:18 PM
Well, he used it (albeit somewhat reluctantly) at times in Seattle
The latest to employ the shotgun was Seahawks quarterback Matt Hasselbeck, who used it on a few snaps for the first time in Sunday's win against the Rams.
Hasselbeck and quarterbacks coach Jim Zorn used it as a corrective measure for the pressure Rams defensive coordinator Jim Haslett was mounting.
"This was the first time we used Matt in shotgun," Zorn says. "He's always had the option to be in gun. But both he and I like the option to be under center. The rhythm and the timing of the drop really makes the timing of throws much better than the timing of the gun, where you have to retime your throws. But we tried it this week."
NFL Report: Two tight ends, shotgun help teams stop the blitz - USATODAY.com (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2006-10-18-nfl-report_x.htm)
I could have sworn we had a thread on this though
70Chip
08-12-2008, 01:48 PM
When Gibbs was reluctant to use the shotgun (until 2005) for the same reasons as Zorn, everyone said it was outmoded thinking.
The press here in town is puffing this guy because he gives good press conference. Unfortunately that has nothing to do with winning football games. The most common error of journalists is to conflate geniality with broader human qualities and or abilities. I'm somewhat glib with the gift of gab and I'll bet I could sit behind a microphone and make LaCanfora's job as easy as fishing, but it wouldn't make me a good person or football coach. (But I would be a lot better than any of you fuckers)
This is not to say that Zorn won't be successful, it's only to say that the fact that many writers seem to have a man crush on the coach is nothing to judge by.
There are still a few teams that don't use it and I don't think it's a big deal. I didn't with Gibbs either.
MPNRedskins
08-12-2008, 06:46 PM
Maybe he will unleash it in preseason or later in the year.
Monkeydad
08-13-2008, 11:36 AM
For what it's worth, on Madden (the version I'm playing), I've been using Seattle's offense for the Skins and there is no shotgun. There are 4WR sets though.
I have no idea if the playbooks are accurate though. :D
We're not seeing Zorn's full playbook yet though, so he could incorporate one. Did he use it as a player? That could determine his comfort level with it.
jdlea
08-13-2008, 12:00 PM
For what it's worth, on Madden (the version I'm playing), I've been using Seattle's offense for the Skins and there is no shotgun. There are 4WR sets though.
I have no idea if the playbooks are accurate though. :D
We're not seeing Zorn's full playbook yet though, so he could incorporate one. Did he use it as a player? That could determine his comfort level with it.
To build from that, it is in the Skins playbook on Madden 09. That said, like Buster, I have no idea how accurate the playbook is.
Monkeydad
08-13-2008, 12:38 PM
Oh no! Someone leaked Zorn's playbook to EA! ;)
Yellow31
08-13-2008, 12:41 PM
if its not on MADDEN it must not be in their offense!.....seriously.....
The playbooks are accurate in that those are real NFL plays in there. But if you opened up a real team playbook it's not going to be the same as what's in Madden obviously. I really hope people don't think these are the same playbooks that teams use.