Jason Campbell and the WCO

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GMScud
08-10-2008, 07:26 PM
Guys, point is, IT'S PRESEASON! Have we not learned our lesson at all?

I am not comparing this preseason to Spurrier's, even though it appears like it, I am not saying Campbell is the 2nd coming of Wuerffel...all I am saying is, what is happening right now, means nothing. The cowboys lost every game in preseason and went on to win the super bowl. If I recall the Patriots lost almost all, or all of their preseason games and went on to win the super bowl. Just like the Lions have had excellent preseason outputs and sucked in the regular season, and I use Spurrier's Skins team as an example of a team that looked GREAT in preseason and sucked during the regular season. So it doesn't make a LICK of difference if he's looking good now...hundreds of players have looked good in preseason, that in no way means it translates into good performance for the season. Hopefully in this case, it will...but when you're facing players that probably know they have made the team (1st stringers) and are just trying to get into game shape, you can't take the results seriously yet.

Simply put, you're wrong. Sure as far as the record book is concerned it means nothing. But we've got a young QB on the verge of his most important season in a new complex offense and a new HC. How the first team is picking it up and executing DOES mean something. Whether we win or lose doesn't matter, but if we looked totally inept on both sides of the ball the last two weeks, would you be singing the same tune? Methinks you'd be concerned about a poor transition...

Ruhskins
08-10-2008, 07:58 PM
I think unlike our last two years, this preseason when our starters have played against the opponents starters, our guys have looked good in two games. I must say that this makes me optimistic about our team, granted that this is not the regular season and it is likely that our team and the opponent are not playing at full speed (i.e.: Portis playing carefully in the last game).

I've been saying this over and over, but I think a big different this year is Zorn's focus on Jason Campbell. Zorn is working on developing JC, something that didn't happen under Gibbs. Now I don't want to make it sound as JC is a rookie QB developing, but I just don't think there was much emphasis on developing him under Gibbs and Saunders. JC's play as QB will determine how well the team will do, and I think Zorn knows this hence his focus on the position.

Campbell has looked good in two games, and I'm glad to see our 1st team doing well against the opponent's 1st team. One thing that I hope the team can overcome this year is their inability to close out games. We won't be able to see this until the regular season. However, I like what I've see from our starters, and I hope that carries over to the regular season.

skinsfan69
08-10-2008, 10:36 PM
He just continues to impress me with the way he's picking up this offense. He's getting the ball out quick and he's been very accurate. Not much to hate so far from JC and the WCO that's for sure! So far it's looking like a great fit... what do you think?

So far so good. But it's pre season and nobody is game planning. Let's see what happens on Sept. 4th.

GTripp0012
08-10-2008, 10:48 PM
So far so good. But it's pre season and nobody is game planning. Let's see what happens on Sept. 4th.No doubt that we'll know a lot more on Sept. 5 then we do know. If Campbell can toss 3 TDs against the Giants, the Saints and Cardinals definately won't stand in his way.

skinsfan69
08-10-2008, 10:52 PM
One thing I noticed is there is no shotgun and JC only takes 3 and 5 step drops. I know some of the WC offenses use shotgun. I wonder if we're planning on using it? I don't think Seattle does.

MTK
08-10-2008, 10:55 PM
Simply put, you're wrong. Sure as far as the record book is concerned it means nothing. But we've got a young QB on the verge of his most important season in a new complex offense and a new HC. How the first team is picking it up and executing DOES mean something. Whether we win or lose doesn't matter, but if we looked totally inept on both sides of the ball the last two weeks, would you be singing the same tune? Methinks you'd be concerned about a poor transition...

Good point.

The preseason isn't completely worthless. It's good for seeing how the team does in situational type stuff. Converting 3rd downs, goal line and short yardage, and just the overall flow of things. Right now this doesn't look like an offense in transition, the basic execution seems to be strong.

FRPLG
08-11-2008, 02:24 AM
I'll tell you what I like the most. JC is not "Zorn's guy" but Zorn is clearly a big fan and coaching him up as much as possible. It'd be real easy, and common-place, for a new coach to come in and give it the old college try for a few weeks before writing off a young QB he didn't draft. Zorn hasn't done that. That should mean a lot. Zorn seems excited about JC and that makes me VERY happy.

gibbsisgod
08-11-2008, 07:20 AM
I really want to see JC play the whole first half in one of these games. JZ probably scripts the first 10-15 plays. After that, Campbell is over on the sideline with a baseball cap on. I really want to see how he handles himself when he doesn't know what play JZ is calling ahead of time. With that being said, everything looks to be coming together nicely :FIREdevil HAIL!

dmek25
08-11-2008, 08:10 AM
good point. but he definitely looks alot more comfortable. i guess with the quick reads, it takes alot of the guess work out of where the safety is

redskin37
08-11-2008, 08:16 AM
Collins and Jansen look lost out there.

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