Ruhskins
07-31-2008, 04:02 PM
I don't want to speculate and believe that this is going to be a great JT and AC year... We've had too many great trades blow up in our faces before. I'm reserving judgment.
You make a good point. While anything can happen with this DE tandem, the only thing that I'd like to point out is that in previous years the team has made flashy trades and/or super star free agent signings, bringing a lot of expectations that (as you put it) blow up in our faces. However, I do feel that this situation with Jason Taylor is different, and it is not like the signings of Archuleta, Lloyd, Bruce Smith, and Deion Sanders.
I honestly don't like for the team to get much hype, but I do hope that this makes teams really think hard when they play our defense, knowing that there are two outstanding pass rushers in the line.
Taylor can still ball and put up double digit sacks. The only way I don't see that happening is if he gets inj...
I don't even want to say it.
SmootSmack
07-31-2008, 04:36 PM
Best since Manley, and Mann? That's saying something
Not really. Probably says more to our lack of doing anything over the years to get anything like Manley and Mann
MPNRedskins
07-31-2008, 06:12 PM
I enjoy hearing great things about the Redskins, but I want to see the finished product. On paper, everything looks good. I have confidence we will do well this year and surprise a lot of people.
Giantone
07-31-2008, 06:22 PM
hey... never say never
:)
LOL......amen,after last year...well....you just never know.:food-smil
Beemnseven
07-31-2008, 10:46 PM
50 sacks for the year works out to 3.12 sacks per game. The last time the Redskins had at least 50 sacks was 1991. In fact, here's the whole list of season sack totals going back to 1982 and where we ranked in the league...
2007 -- 33 sacks, 16th
2006 -- 19 sacks, 32nd (yuck, worst ever in league history)
2005 -- 35, 20th
2004 -- 40, 9th
2003 -- 27, 27th
2002 -- 40, 9th
2001 -- 25, 29th
2000 -- 45, 8th
1999 -- 40, 14th
1998 -- 33, 26th
1997 -- 37, 21st
1996 -- 34, 17th
1995 -- 30, 20th
1994 -- 28, 21st
1993 -- 31, 23rd
1992 -- 39, 16th
1991 -- 50, 3rd
1990 -- 45, 4th
1989 -- 40, 10th
1988 -- 43, 7th
1987 -- 53, 4th *Strike shortened season
1986 -- 55, 5th
1985 -- 52, 9th
1984 -- 66, 2nd
1983 -- 51, 6th
1982 -- 32, 3rd *Strike shortened season
Take note that from 1982 - 1991, otherwise known as "The Glory Years", Joe Gibbs' Redskins never finished worse than the top ten in the league in sack totals.
Dexter Manley and Charles Mann have to be the most underrated DE tandem in NFL history.
Rajmahal33
07-31-2008, 11:20 PM
I know it's almost idiotic to suggest this... but is it possible that Jason Taylor is not as good as his numbers suggest? I'm NOT saying he will be a bust but it seems like people almost expect 15 sacks this year from him which i don't think is a given.
He played in an 'ok' division but nothing compared to the competitiveness and talent of the NFC east. I'd like to see him play in a down of football on a team other than the Miami Dolphins before I jump to the conclusion that we have created the greatest tandem of DE's in pro football history. Am I crazy?
Beemnseven
08-01-2008, 07:50 AM
I know it's almost idiotic to suggest this... but is it possible that Jason Taylor is not as good as his numbers suggest? I'm NOT saying he will be a bust but it seems like people almost expect 15 sacks this year from him which i don't think is a given.
He played in an 'ok' division but nothing compared to the competitiveness and talent of the NFC east. I'd like to see him play in a down of football on a team other than the Miami Dolphins before I jump to the conclusion that we have created the greatest tandem of DE's in pro football history. Am I crazy?
Our pass rush has to be better now than it was before.
RedskinRat
08-01-2008, 08:26 AM
... i just don't see how.
Ok, That Guy, here's how it works: One of the players on the Redskins Defense tackles the QB of the opposing team. The Redskins Defense then repeats this 59 more times.
Hope this helps.
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I know it's almost idiotic to suggest this... but is it possible that Jason Taylor is not as good as his numbers suggest? I'm NOT saying he will be a bust but it seems like people almost expect 15 sacks this year from him which i don't think is a given.
He played in an 'ok' division but nothing compared to the competitiveness and talent of the NFC east. I'd like to see him play in a down of football on a team other than the Miami Dolphins before I jump to the conclusion that we have created the greatest tandem of DE's in pro football history. Am I crazy?
I think you are over thinking this.
Is Strahan any less of a player because he only played for the Giants?
Taylor logged 11 sacks last year on a team that won 1 game. Think about what he could do when he's surrounded by more talent.
I'm not expecting 15 sacks, but 10-12 is pretty reasonable I think.