Redskins trade for Jason Taylor (updated)

That would make this trade a colossal bust if we improved by only 5 sacks.. You'd be happy with that?Bumping this thread.

Clayton said we could get 50 sacks. We got 25 sacks. Hey, he was half-right!

We got 8 fewer sacks than last year. I believe a schematic change is primarily responsible.

But reading through this thread, it seems somewhat insincere that people would bitch about not having a 2nd rounder this year. We got a pro-bowler didn't you hear?

Could Jason Taylor end up back in Miami? - The Phinsider (http://www.thephinsider.com/2009/1/28/739396/could-jason-taylor-end-up)

So long JT...

That 8.5 mil could be better spent in soooo many ways.

So long JT...

That 8.5 mil could be better spent in soooo many ways.

Goats right 8.5 does nice things. But so does a healthy JT

Bumping this thread.

Clayton said we could get 50 sacks. We got 25 sacks. Hey, he was half-right!

We got 8 fewer sacks than last year. I believe a schematic change is primarily responsible.

But reading through this thread, it seems somewhat insincere that people would bitch about not having a 2nd rounder this year. We got a pro-bowler didn't you hear?

mmmmm hindsight

I hate to say this, because I really like him, but Philip Daniels could be the Skins MVP this year. I already liked our D-line, but with the addition of J. Taylor the pass rush could be downright scary! I think a 2nd rounder is a bit high, but let's face it the Dolphins had all the leverage here. Carter and Taylor coming off the ends just made the back 7 that much tougher!!

HAIL!!

Boy was I wrong! I do believe a healthy Jason Taylor would have had a bigger impact. I hope he returns next season. I hate to give up those two picks and only get the half season he played in return!

Bumping this thread.

Clayton said we could get 50 sacks. We got 25 sacks. Hey, he was half-right!

We got 8 fewer sacks than last year. I believe a schematic change is primarily responsible.

But reading through this thread, it seems somewhat insincere that people would bitch about not having a 2nd rounder this year. We got a pro-bowler didn't you hear?

Sweet vindication for you.

Boy was I wrong! I do believe a healthy Jason Taylor would have had a bigger impact. I hope he returns next season. I hate to give up those two picks and only get the half season he played in return!

Yeah i have to own up too... i had visions of sugar plums dancing in my head and Jason "Xerxes" Taylor dominating QBs while he wore the B & G.

Going forward I just don't see him fitting well now that we aren't facing a last minute decision. Taylor isn't real effective @ left end but probably not a huge upgrade over AC on the other side (in our 4-3 system). Like i said elsewhere as much as i respect Daniels i mean c'mon, 36 yrs of age and it's not like he was always healthy prior to '08. If cutting JT clean allows us to grab a value left end, someone who can stop the run and get a little more pressure than Evans, i'm ok w/ that.

... heard it suggested Taylor would play OLB (replacing Marcus btw things sound). F'ing no ok. Just f'ing no. Tackling, run-stopping is not his strong suit.

I would have preferred to draft a young DE but there were none worthy when it was our turn to pick. I have two concerns with this pick up:
1) While this move greatly improves our pass rush, we now do not have a stout run stopping DE. Carter and Taylor are not very strong against power running teams, they are barely over 250 and will get pushed around from time to time. We have basically two very similar DE's and the other teams will run right at them.
2) Another old guy. Taylor has been dancing on TV for the last several months and might not be in the best shape of his life. Injury is a concern.

While I share in the excitement of a potentially strong pass rush. But if you can not stop the run you are in for a long season. You have to be able to run the ball and stop the run, if you can not do that you are playing for next year.

I was actually not that far off.

What's even more sickening is that on top of giving away a 2nd round draft pick, Vinny only signs him to a 1 year contract. Vinny does this with every big name FA. He pays them big bucks, gives away future draft picks and only signs them to 1 year contracts.
In the case of Taylor, he gets a freak injury and we don't get the expected production out of him. At the end of the season Blache lets him play his natural position, he starts to make an impact and the season's over.
Now that his contract is null and void, if we want to keep him it'll cost another 8.5 million. Shouldn't this have been negotiated in the first place? Maybe sign him to a 2 year contract where he could make his 8.5 million in incentives in the second year of his contract? At least we would have had the opportunity to see if he could add any value to our defense in, at the least, a limited role as an outside linebacker in passing situations. At least get some kind of value from giving away our 2nd round pick.