Al Gore lays down green challenge to America

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djnemo65
07-18-2008, 07:57 PM
You guys make it sound like Gore is burning barrels of oil in his yard. He lives in a mansion, which uses more electricity than a not-mansion. He's not riding around the country on a coal-powered bicycle, OK?

And Jsarno, you are confused about what we are discussing. This isn't about Gore reducing his home's dependence on fossil fuels - which means nothing more than the symbolic - it's about America completely changing its infrastructure, for both security and environmental reasons. So when you question whether or not Gore has done "it" yet, I question if you understand what we are talking about here, because that response makes no sense to me.

724Skinsfan
07-18-2008, 08:06 PM
It would have been less controversial if the headline was "Some Noble Peace Prize Winning Smart Dude Lays Down Green Challenge".

Regardless it's better than "Al Green Lays Down Gore Challenge To America"

saden1
07-18-2008, 08:08 PM
Just curious, have you guys done anything at home to be more green?

I've swapped out nearly all of my light bulbs for compact fluorescents. I noticed a difference in my electric bill right away. My wife and I are also more conscious of keeping unnecessary lights off. I also keep my heat and a/c running strong with yearly tune ups and frequent changes of the air filter. And I installed a programmable thermostat when I first moved in.


I use CFL all round the house. If I'm not in a room the light is turned off. When I'm not at home everything is turned off. The thermostat turns the heaters on an hour before I get home. If it's cold I wear warm cloths, when it's hot I shed some cloths. It's all easy 1-2-3.

saden1
07-18-2008, 08:14 PM
Gore is a prick and a hypocrite. Why does anyone need such a huge mansion? I get that he's rich and all but WTF? And the fact that he buys "carbon footprint offset" doesn't change a god damn thing. Maybe if he lived in a more modest house he wouldn't need to pay anyone to offset anything! In any case, I can't stand the mofo!

As for his challenge, I'm listening.

TheSmurfs22
07-18-2008, 09:18 PM
I have no problem recycling, using energy star appliances, but when someone like Al Gore (I am not trying to start a political fight here) tries to tell me what I SHOULD be doing and is not even close to adhering to his own doctrine I have real problems with it. Lets not forget, Mr. Gore is a politician not a scientist.

budw38
07-18-2008, 10:21 PM
You guys make it sound like Gore is burning barrels of oil in his yard. He lives in a mansion, which uses more electricity than a not-mansion. He's not riding around the country on a coal-powered bicycle, OK?

And Jsarno, you are confused about what we are discussing. This isn't about Gore reducing his home's dependence on fossil fuels - which means nothing more than the symbolic - it's about America completely changing its infrastructure, for both security and environmental reasons. So when you question whether or not Gore has done "it" yet, I question if you understand what we are talking about here, because that response makes no sense to me.
Maybe Jsarno is not in love with Al Gore like you are ? Why should a man worht 100 million $$$'s have the life of luxary ,,, $2,500 worth of electricity each month , ride in a limo , fly in jets that burn 5,000 gallons per hour of flight , tell us to cut back when he sits back and does more harm to our environment than all of us in the warpath combined ? I agree with conserving , I walk , bike ect. I also use the Flourecent bulbs ,,, note , if you drop one ,,,, leave the room for ten minutes and clean the area < the have Mercury inside > . But Al Gore preaching to us about the environment is like having an alcoholic preaching " Don't drink and Drive " .

jsarno
07-18-2008, 10:24 PM
You guys make it sound like Gore is burning barrels of oil in his yard. He lives in a mansion, which uses more electricity than a not-mansion. He's not riding around the country on a coal-powered bicycle, OK?

And Jsarno, you are confused about what we are discussing. This isn't about Gore reducing his home's dependence on fossil fuels - which means nothing more than the symbolic - it's about America completely changing its infrastructure, for both security and environmental reasons. So when you question whether or not Gore has done "it" yet, I question if you understand what we are talking about here, because that response makes no sense to me.

I don't see how you're confused. I responded to your response to this post:
So is he announcing that he's painting his private jet green...or one of his houses that use more energy than most towns?

This was your response:

You guys are totally right. Let's just ignore this issue because Gore's house uses a lot of energy and keep powering the country with fossil fuels.

So maybe I was not specific enough. Stop me when I am wrong...This is about Gore challenging america to go green. Yet, Gore himself has not gone green, which a couple people pointed out. Then you got sarcastic with the responses (see above post by you) so I am failing to see where you are lost.

If Gore is challenging america, sure it's about america changing it's infrastructure, however, it also brings into question the one who brings it up. Gore himself. Why is it he is challenging america when he didn't bother to challenge himself?
Don't get me wrong, I love the message, but the messenger is a hypocrite. Like I pointed out, I feel Gore being "the spokesperson" diminishes the cause.

So please inform me of where I am lost after this post. I'd love to clear it up for you.
(please note, that is a genuine comment, not sarcasm which I admit it looks like)

Schneed10
07-18-2008, 10:24 PM
And Jsarno, you are confused about what we are discussing. This isn't about Gore reducing his home's dependence on fossil fuels - which means nothing more than the symbolic - it's about America completely changing its infrastructure, for both security and environmental reasons. So when you question whether or not Gore has done "it" yet, I question if you understand what we are talking about here, because that response makes no sense to me.

Well said. Al Gore's main mission is not to get people to conserve. While that is a good idea, his main mission is to have American energy companies switch to using renewable energy sources to meet our high energy demands.

His "green challenge" is not to the American people. It is to congress, the White House, and energy companies to move forward with renewable energy infrastructure.

Schneed10
07-18-2008, 10:28 PM
Like I pointed out, I feel Gore being "the spokesperson" diminishes the cause.


If he somehow diminishes the cause, then you're not focusing hard enough on the message.

Forget what Gore does for a second with the lights in his house or the fuel in his jets. Wipe it from your brain.

Do you think:

- The US should use more wind power?
- More clean nuclear power?
- Develop hydrogen fuel cells, electric cars, etc?
- Import less oil from other countries?
- Drive the price of gas and electricity down using these market forces?

Nobody cares what you think of Al Gore. The question is do you think this is a good plan? I'd love to hear a reason why not - "Al Gore said so" does not qualify.

jsarno
07-18-2008, 10:29 PM
Gore is a prick and a hypocrite. Why does anyone need such a huge mansion? I get that he's rich and all but WTF? And the fact that he buys "carbon footprint offset" doesn't change a god damn thing. Maybe if he lived in a more modest house he wouldn't need to pay anyone to offset anything! In any case, I can't stand the mofo!

As for his challenge, I'm listening.

djnemo- the above post sums up my thoughts pretty well. Especially the end.

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