Kudos to Dan Snyder and Vinny Cerrato

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sportscurmudgeon
07-04-2008, 04:10 PM
Let me be clear. The title of this thread is not sarcastic. I want to praise these two men for what they have done in this off-season.

Everyone here knows that I have been more than slightly critical of these men in the past for their football decisions. Now I want to say they did something very good for the team. :goodjob:

Let me begin by defining what I mean by a "starter" in the NFL. A "starter" is someone who a team puts in a starting position on opening day. If that "starter" has a season ending injury early in the season - - say the second game - - and another player steps in and starts all or most of the rest of the games at that position, then that second player is also a "starter".

With that definition, I believe there are only two teams in the NFL who have not lost any of their "starters" in this off-season. Those two teams would be the Cleveland Browns and the Washington Redskins.

Continuity is important to a football team; the Redskins have not had a lot of that in recent years. Building on your team via the draft is important to a football team; the Redskins have not done that very well in recent years. :banghead:

But this year they have done it and so Kudos to Dan Snyder and Vinny Cerrato. :biggthump

That Guy
07-04-2008, 05:11 PM
we definitely took the shotgun approach to trying to fix our WR issue, but draft history has shown that to work plenty of times before (like when the broncos used 3 3rd rounders on cbs and got 2 quality guys out of it).

i mean, they swung for the fences on CJ, but i honestly think 3 years from now (long term) they did better by using the draft, and our TE depth is definitely better now too.

still need a stud DE and young OL starters, but reinhart was a good pick, and getting EJ was great (free low end starter/good backup). The young guys we have on the OL (alexander/heyer) have shown improvement, and i REALLY like the UDFAs they got this year (crummey, kerry brown).

we'll be fine on the DL, but there really isn't any chance of playing better than last year without EJ performing miracles after a bad start to a career (it's happened before, but not often).

i also really liked signing SS from the raiders to shore up the safety position/depth along with the 3 draftees that are probably good #4s and #5s, but not much more. at least they'll be better than jimoh and can help on teams.

I really wished they had signed some more vet min LB depth though... the dropoff between our starters and backups is pretty drastic and a brandon short/random vet warm body could at least be respectable while someone was injured... we've seen highway 57, and it's not a good place to be.

i do like zorn so far. no game footage yet, but there have been zero warning flags and the norv alert hasn't gone off yet, so we'll have to see, but i'm hopefully he's the real deal.

anyways, it's hard to say anything bad about this offseason overall, though i know some people would have preferred a DE in the 1st etc, we definitely did get better as a team.

Daseal
07-04-2008, 05:54 PM
SC must have the flu like me, he's obviously not feeling well. ;)

J. Spanky
07-04-2008, 05:57 PM
agreed. kudos on a job, thus far, seemingly, well done.

but hey, vinny, if you're reading this - please sign takeo spikes. and re-sign lemar marshall. vet min, of course ;)

appreciate it. thanks.

sportscurmudgeon
07-04-2008, 06:43 PM
Daseal:

Actually, I'm feeling just fine. I thought that in the spirit of most of my posts - keeping it real to use the vernacular - Snyder and Cerrato deserved praise for this off-season.

Might I have drafted different players or players at different positions? Truth be told, I think Davis was a "luxury pick" when the team could have used help at another position. But that's nit-picking.

They kept the "starters" together AND they added talent through the draft. Even better, they added talent to the position that I have thought for the last two years was a huge weakness for the Skins - - wide receiver.

When Snyder and/or Cerrato did something dumb in the past, I called them on it. So, now that they did something very good, I thought it was intellectually honest to point it out and offer kudos to them.

Hope you get over your flu soon...

Giantone
07-04-2008, 08:46 PM
Don't you think you should wait and see how this turns out,I understand you might like things so far but anytime Vinny is around things tend to get screwed up.

That Guy
07-04-2008, 09:40 PM
Don't you think you should wait and see how this turns out,I understand you might like things so far but anytime Vinny is around things tend to get screwed up.

good prospects are good prospects, a good draft is a good draft. a good offseason and lack of new injuries are good too. stability in the coaching staff and a good first impression from zorn are what they are.

yeah, it can all go south, but both of us have said, so far, so good.

GMScud
07-05-2008, 01:01 AM
Don't you think you should wait and see how this turns out,I understand you might like things so far but anytime Vinny is around things tend to get screwed up.

Really? Like when he won a superbowl as head college scout in San Fran? Or when Notre Dame won a national title when he was head of recruiting? Yeah, the guy has no talent for sure and an awful track record.

Skinny Tee
07-05-2008, 02:42 AM
Let me be clear. The title of this thread is not sarcastic. I want to praise these two men for what they have done in this off-season.

Everyone here knows that I have been more than slightly critical of these men in the past for their football decisions. Now I want to say they did something very good for the team. :goodjob:

Let me begin by defining what I mean by a "starter" in the NFL. A "starter" is someone who a team puts in a starting position on opening day. If that "starter" has a season ending injury early in the season - - say the second game - - and another player steps in and starts all or most of the rest of the games at that position, then that second player is also a "starter".

With that definition, I believe there are only two teams in the NFL who have not lost any of their "starters" in this off-season. Those two teams would be the Cleveland Browns and the Washington Redskins.

Continuity is important to a football team; the Redskins have not had a lot of that in recent years. Building on your team via the draft is important to a football team; the Redskins have not done that very well in recent years. :banghead:

But this year they have done it and so Kudos to Dan Snyder and Vinny Cerrato. :biggthump

I think you're forgetting some rather important starters like your head coach and a defensive coordinator.

Losing them negates any of the hold over starters we have on the field.

I like our offseason moves and have no gripes with Danny and Vinny, but I'm not sure I want to be singing their praises just yet. I'd like to see what kind of product we put on the field this year and what we hold over going into next year.

...If Zorn stinks it up this year will he still be around if Cower wants to come back to coach? If we make another head coaching change next offseason I'll be ready to start building the gallows. So for now I'll save the praise.

Paintrain
07-05-2008, 08:18 AM
I think you're forgetting some rather important starters like your head coach and a defensive coordinator.

Losing them negates any of the hold over starters we have on the field.

I like our offseason moves and have no gripes with Danny and Vinny, but I'm not sure I want to be singing their praises just yet. I'd like to see what kind of product we put on the field this year and what we hold over going into next year.

...If Zorn stinks it up this year will he still be around if Cower wants to come back to coach? If we make another head coaching change next offseason I'll be ready to start building the gallows. So for now I'll save the praise.

I know I'm in the minority here, but I don't think losing the head coach and defensive coordinator are that huge of a deal when we are returning 22 starters from last year's playoff team, keeping the defensive scheme in tact and changing only half of the offense. As much as we all love and revere Gibbs and (most more than me) Grilliams, let's not forget the 6 blown 2nd half leads last year, including the playoffs.

While those ultimately fall on the players, G & G set the tone respectively for their sides of the ball. Grilliams defenses gave those games up. Gibbs/Saunders offense stopped attacking and let teams back into games.

The only way Cowher ever comes to Fed-Ex in the next few years is as an analyst or an opposing head coach. Snyder won't do a 'one and done' with Zorn unless we go 1-15.

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