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skinsfan69 07-07-2008, 10:24 AM "Almost" only counts in horseshoes, handgrenades, and Mike Alstott "touchdowns"
I don't know how "we all know" he was the best man for the job. That seems a bit hard to just know.
Campbell was just starting to learn Saunders' offense, that's not the same as "mastering" it. And if he in fact was close to "mastering" it then the WCO should take him less than half the time.
Sure, some may say the draft was questionable. But it seemed like you were pretty ok with Davis, and the small school pick in Rhinehart based on these
http://www.thewarpath.net/445135-post106.html
http://www.thewarpath.net/445127-post103.html
http://www.thewarpath.net/445113-post97.html
http://www.thewarpath.net/445111-post96.html
http://www.thewarpath.net/444893-post43.html
http://www.thewarpath.net/445271-post135.html
and if you read my post i'm not questioning anyone from small schools. i'm questioning why he was taken in the 3rd round when everyone else had him going in the 5th or 6th.
Slingin Sammy 33 07-07-2008, 11:52 AM Folks:
The Skins' FO supposedly chased CJ to the point where they supposedly offered a really big price for him.
That's conjecture. Here's a fact:
That deal never happened. I would not have been happy with a deal of the kind that was widely reported but I don't have to get my knickers in a knot over it because - - It ... never ... happened.
By the way, the Skins' FO may also have considered moving training camp this year to the Xygork Nebula. That would have been a bad idea. But they didn't to that either...
Will the off-season restraint shown by Danny Boy and Vinnie Boombatz assure the Skins of a Super Bowl slot? Of course not.
But I like the idea that there are so many players showing up at the beginning of training camp who have shown that they can actually perform on the field at the level of an NFL playoff team.
If you want to look at this from a negative perspective, the new coaching staff can obviously f*ck this up with incompetence or irrationality. The Redskins COULD be 6-10 this year; and if they are, you can point the finger at the guys on the sideline and in the coaches' booth - - because the players have shown they can perform at a higher level that that.
The Skins can also go 4-12 this year if the football gods decide to heap injuries on the team and make the ball bounce away from the Skins all season long.
But as the team goes into training camp with everyone as healthy and fit as one can expect them to be at this point in the calendar, the Skins' FO has done well by the players on the team. They have a legitmate shot at the playoffs and a legitimate shot at playing in the NFC title game. This isn't "fanboy talk"; the Skins can make this happen with a relatively injury-free season and some breaks along the way. I do NOT think the Skins are the best team in the NFC, but they are one of the teams "in the mix" to make it deep into the playoffs where anything can happen.
Are the Skins my pick for the NFC rep to the Super Bowl as of July 2008? No, they are not. But they are closer to being in the Super Bowl than they are to having a pick in the top five of the draft in 2009...
Good thread, good posts. Nice to see you coming around, you may have to change your screen-name :)
May I inerest you in a cool, refreshing beverage....possibly the K.A.? LOL
You know it's been an uneventful offseason for the Redskins when all people have to complain about is a move that wasn't even made. :doh:
DiehardSkin88 07-07-2008, 01:00 PM I would put GW's bunch in the overachieving category in his years here. Look at our line, although some solid veterans, we plugged people in and they got the job done. The one year that our D didn't play as well, i heard an NFL scout on the radio say that our group has never been that talented and it just caught up to us...we'd maxed out our mediocre talent. The next year we were back in the top 10. I think alot of people undervalue what GW did here. Don't get me wrong i'm hoping for a great D this year, but I'm a little concerned. Blache doesn't have top 10 D's in his coaching past. His defenses have been middle of the pack.
I thought that when Blache was DC for the bears i think it was 2000 or 2001 his defense was in the top 3 of the league and his scoring defense and defensive touchdowns were at the top, along with turnovers. Am i wrong?
724Skinsfan 07-07-2008, 01:15 PM Blache did an excellent job as Bears coordinator given the amount of injuries they suffered.
redsk1 07-07-2008, 02:33 PM I thought that when Blache was DC for the bears i think it was 2000 or 2001 his defense was in the top 3 of the league and his scoring defense and defensive touchdowns were at the top, along with turnovers. Am i wrong?
I'm really not trying to downgrade the credentials of Blache as much as trying to make a point about GW.
Did a little more research:
1999 29th ranked D
2000 16th
2001 15th
2002 25th
sportscurmudgeon 07-07-2008, 02:44 PM Slingin Sammy 33:
I'll pass on the Kool Aid if you don't mind.
When this off-season began with Gibbs' resignation and the FO went through a Keystone Kops routine to find a new head coach, I really didn't think things would look this good in July. I thought that Danny Boy and Vinnie Boombatz would find a way to sh*t the bed.
But they didn't!! They kept a playoff level team - not a Super Bowl level team but a playoff level team - together; and they added solid prospects that could shore up some of the weaknesses in this playoff level team. Had you asked me in January to make a prediction of the "State of the Skins" on July 4th, my predictions would have been far more negative than what we see in front of us now.
So, I offer congratuations. If people want to think that I'm only offering congratuations because the FO didn't sh*t the bed, you are free to think that. I think this has been the best off-season performance by the Redskins since Daniel Snyder bought the team.
skinsfan69 07-07-2008, 04:37 PM Slingin Sammy 33:
I'll pass on the Kool Aid if you don't mind.
When this off-season began with Gibbs' resignation and the FO went through a Keystone Kops routine to find a new head coach, I really didn't think things would look this good in July. I thought that Danny Boy and Vinnie Boombatz would find a way to sh*t the bed.
But they didn't!! They kept a playoff level team - not a Super Bowl level team but a playoff level team - together; and they added solid prospects that could shore up some of the weaknesses in this playoff level team. Had you asked me in January to make a prediction of the "State of the Skins" on July 4th, my predictions would have been far more negative than what we see in front of us now.
So, I offer congratuations. If people want to think that I'm only offering congratuations because the FO didn't sh*t the bed, you are free to think that. I think this has been the best off-season performance by the Redskins since Daniel Snyder bought the team.
Let me ask you this. Right now, do you think we're the worst team in the NFC East? Cause I do.
What did Philly do to leapfrog over the Skins?
Schneed10 07-07-2008, 05:38 PM What did Philly do to leapfrog over the Skins?
IMO, it's what they didn't have happen to them... a head coaching change.
I agree with the premise of this thread, that the Skins had a good offseason. But that was in light of making the best of a bad situation: the best coach this team has ever had just retired.
I cannot see how Gibbs retiring can result in a better record for us next season. I just can't. It would make no sense.
Now give Zorn a year and if he's any good, he might have an Andy Reid or Mike Holmgren offense up and running around here. Assuming the defense stays solid, we may be in a better place in 2009. But for 2008, you have to figure the learning curve will hurt us.
We had a good offseason because we made very level-headed moves and made a smart coaching hire. But even the best coaches USUALLY need some time for the learning curve. I think we're in for a basement finish this season. I'm just looking for signs that we'll do real well in 2009.
That said, I'm still praying that Zorn ends up like Sean Payton circa 2006.
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