firstdown
06-17-2008, 03:38 PM
You're preaching to the choir in regards to people making 250K not being rich, these people have to work day in day out after all. I do however find it odd some feel that 250K is not enough.
I agree the debate over if 250k is enough to live on has really moved this thread in a different direction. As I said earlier its more about "Is It Fair" to push more tax burden onto them?
onlydarksets
06-17-2008, 03:43 PM
I think it's interesting that "$250k is comfortable, not rich" has been mischaracterized as an argument for $250k not being enough to live on.
Anyway, I agree it's time to move on. Where's SS with one of his "Understanding the issues" threads?
Schneed10
06-17-2008, 03:53 PM
I think it's interesting that "$250k is comfortable, not rich" has been mischaracterized as an argument for $250k not being enough to live on.
Anyway, I agree it's time to move on. Where's SS with one of his "Understanding the issues" threads?
Yeah it's important not to get it misconstrued.
I think the budgeting exercise we went through, in consideration with your input on childcare and student loans, shows that $250K is a good cutoff for a 3% increase in the tax rate.
Those making $250K, even in a worst case where student loans and daycare were through the roof, would pay 0 in new taxes. Those making $300K would pay an additional $1500 per year, and it's been shown here that if you make $300K, you can afford a very nice lifestyle and big daycare costs and massive student loans.
But no, $250K per year is not "rich."
firstdown
06-17-2008, 03:54 PM
While I make pretty good money I'd feel just fine making 250k. All I need to do is fire all employee's, do away with all other overhead and cost and I could be there.
saden1
06-17-2008, 03:55 PM
I agree the debate over if 250k is enough to live on has really moved this thread in a different direction. As I said earlier its more about "Is It Fair" to push more tax burden onto them?
As a single guy that makes roughly half of that I think it's fair. Would I like to get more of my money back? Sure would. Do I feel burdened by taxes? No. Why is roughly half of my property taxes going towords local school districts when I don't have any kids? I don't know, but I do know that I went to public schools and it's the right thing to do....etc...etc...etc.
We've beat this subject to death. Time to explore a new subject. Take it aways SmootSmack.
firstdown
06-17-2008, 03:57 PM
Yeah it's important not to get it misconstrued.
I think the budgeting exercise we went through, in consideration with your input on childcare and student loans, shows that $250K is a good cutoff for a 3% increase in the tax rate.
Those making $250K, even in a worst case where student loans and daycare were through the roof, would pay 0 in new taxes. Those making $300K would pay an additional $1500 per year, and it's been shown here that if you make $300K, you can afford a very nice lifestyle and big daycare costs and massive student loans.
But no, $250K per year is not "rich."
Or maybe people could do with less have one parent at home and do away with daycare cost. I guess thats a whole nother thread for another day when things are slow.
onlydarksets
06-17-2008, 04:04 PM
I agree with Schneed and saden1. firstdown - that's definitely a new thread. I nominate you to start that one ;)
SC Skins Fan
06-17-2008, 04:15 PM
I agree with Schneed and saden1. firstdown - that's definitely a new thread. I nominate you to start that one ;)
Maybe the Redskins will do something worth talking about ... imagine that! Six weeks to the HOF game ...
firstdown
06-17-2008, 04:57 PM
As a single guy that makes roughly half of that I think it's fair. Would I like to get more of my money back? Sure would. Do I feel burdened by taxes? No. Why is roughly half of my property taxes going towords local school districts when I don't have any kids? I don't know, but I do know that I went to public schools and it's the right thing to do....etc...etc...etc.
We've beat this subject to death. Time to explore a new subject. Take it aways SmootSmack.
Not to keep this going but where you say you do not feel burdened by the taxes you pay I do with a family of four. I'm self employed so each month I have to wright a big check to the Fed. and one to the state. Then at the end of the year they say my business grew but I did not take home any more pay and have to pay taxes on this so called growth. I think eveyone should have to pay their own taxes as it would cause allot more people to start thinking about whats happening to all their money. Heck, ask a person what they pay in fed and state taxes and most have no clue at all just what they bring home.
GTripp0012
06-17-2008, 05:06 PM
Six weeks to the HOF game ...Wow. When did that happen?!
I was still thinking it was baseball season.