How do you feel about Shawn Springs?

Springs is good, not great. In a division with CB such as Newman, Samuel and if he stays clean, Pac Man, we are lagging in what some other teams have to offer. If (big if) he stays healthy for 16 games then he's in the top 15 in the league..

How do I feel about Shawn Springs? Pretty good. According to KC Joyner the football scientist the Redskins had the second lowest YPA against their starting corners last year, in this case Smoot/Springs, who according to the article only allowed 5.9 Yards Per Attempt.

Ironically our good friends over in Denver (Bailey/Bly) had the 8th highest yards per attempt at 8.4 YPA. In fact read for yourselves

The worst


Champ Bailey (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4655)/Dre' Bly (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4690): The buzz going into the 2007 season was that Bailey and Bly might be the best starting battery around, but it didn't turn out anywhere near that way. A lot of this poor performance was on Bly's shoulders, as evidenced by his 8.8 YPA, but Bailey has to take some of blame as well. His 7.8 YPA was his worst since 2005. Both will have to improve if Denver's defense is going to see a turnaround in 2008.

Thanks for the FYI dirtbag.:) 5.9 is impressive and I think it shows that this group plays well together. Individually I don't see any of them as elite corners but together we could probably say they've overachieved. What I'm wondering is how much of that achievement was the madscience coming from GW and his many packages.

How do I feel about Shawn Springs? Pretty good. According to KC Joyner the football scientist the Redskins had the second lowest YPA against their starting corners last year, in this case Smoot/Springs, who according to the article only allowed 5.9 Yards Per Attempt.

Ironically our good friends over in Denver (Bailey/Bly) had the 8th highest yards per attempt at 8.4 YPA. In fact read for yourselves

The worst


Champ Bailey (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4655)/Dre' Bly (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4690): The buzz going into the 2007 season was that Bailey and Bly might be the best starting battery around, but it didn't turn out anywhere near that way. A lot of this poor performance was on Bly's shoulders, as evidenced by his 8.8 YPA, but Bailey has to take some of blame as well. His 7.8 YPA was his worst since 2005. Both will have to improve if Denver's defense is going to see a turnaround in 2008.Smoot was insane last year. Probably not happening again, but he's a very solid man corner. Those type of corners are immensely valuable to a defense.

Thanks for the FYI dirtbag.:) 5.9 is impressive and I think it shows that this group plays well together. Individually I don't see any of them as elite corners but together we could probably say they've overachieved. What I'm wondering is how much of that achievement was the madscience coming from GW and his many packages.Madscience? Probably none. Knowing when his defensive talent was going to dominate the opponent and gameplanning accordingly was a tribute to his hard study and student of the game attitude, and benefitted all sides of the ball.

Don't forget though that since 2006, Gregg Williams led two defenses that were the worst defense on third down each of those years. That's something I guarentee that Greg Blache will correct this year. This team will be much improved on third down defense, if nothing else.

Smoot was insane last year. Probably not happening again, but he's a very solid man corner. Those type of corners are immensely valuable to a defense.

Smooty also got better and as the season progressed IMO. I don't see why he won't pick up right where he left off.

Smooty also got better and as the season progressed IMO. I don't see why he won't pick up right where he left off.He was awful in a different scheme in Minnesota.

I mean, yeah, he's better in our scheme, but his true skill level lies somewhere in between last year, and his Love Boat years.

He was awful in a different scheme in Minnesota.

I mean, yeah, he's better in our scheme, but his true skill level lies somewhere in between last year, and his Love Boat years.

Well, I'm still giving Smooty the benefit of the doubt. He didn't even make a slew of interceptions last year like when he first came to Washington. Last year he got back to form on great coverage - this year he'll pick up where he left off and i bet we'll see him get more picks too. I'm right and that's all there is too it!:silly:

Since we're off the topic of Springs absence anyway - what is the consensus on Leigh Torrence? I keep expecting him to jump in and make some noise because GW called him the quickest/fastest guy on the team at one point. W/ big-time speed, avg speed, and some extra coaching shouldn't this kid be in the mix on some cover packages?

Since we're off the topic of Springs absence anyway - what is the consensus on Leigh Torrence? I keep expecting him to jump in and make some noise because GW called him the quickest/fastest guy on the team at one point. W/ big-time speed, avg speed, and some extra coaching shouldn't this kid be in the mix on some cover packages?

Apparently he's an up and comer. He played well in nickel and as a backup last year. He's young and will be a contributor. Not a starter, but definitely someone to keep an eye on. He was in the mix last year, and I think we'll see him some this year as well.

Apparently he's an up and comer. He played well in nickel and as a backup last year. He's young and will be a contributor. Not a starter, but definitely someone to keep an eye on. He was in the mix last year, and I think we'll see him some this year as well.

Torrence looked pretty out of place when he got extended time last year. I hope his problems are technique related & can be corrected w/time & coaching. If not, it's a matter of time before his roster spot is taken, whether this year or next.