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dblanch66 06-07-2008, 11:05 PM Dude, I think Asian American is the preferred nomenclature. But to your points:
1. The Democrats do lack intestinal fortitude, but they also lack even a sniff of a rationale for impeachment. You have to have something.
2. I think a strong case can be made that someone must have at least had an inclination that the Japanese were about to move. However, wouldn't that mean that you should have cited Roosevelt instead of Hoover? Hoover was incompetent in the face of economic crisis, but he never engaged in that sort of deceit.
3. Indeed, I do believe that Oswald acted alone.
4. While I am not formally affiliated with the Republican Party, I have only voted for two Democrats in my life. The first time was an accident. In those days the ballots in Virginia did not identify the candidates by party and this guy sure sounded like a Republican. The second time was in the recent primary when I cast my vote for HRC. And, before you accuse me of doing Limbaugh's bidding, I thought of it first. Sort of. In 2000 a lot of Liberals here voted strategically for McCain and I merely followed their excellent example.
Once again...Hoover was a random example. Not a specific citation. Watch the Zapruder film and take a physics class. And...if you want a toe, I can get you a toe. I can get you a toe by 2 o'clock.
70Chip 06-07-2008, 11:14 PM Once again...Hoover was a random example. Not a specific citation. Watch the Zapruder film and take a physics class. And...if you want a toe, I can get you a toe. I can get you a toe by 2 o'clock.
That's interesting, man.
It's amazing how Jeff Bridges can bring us together. I think HE'S the "Lightworker".
FRPLG 06-08-2008, 12:24 AM Not a specific citation. Watch the Zapruder film and take a physics class.
What does this even mean?
Are you implying that an understanding of physics would prove to someone that Kennedy was killed via conspiracy? Do you even know what you are talking about? I dare you to find one reputable, REPUTABLE, source who has done any scientific research into this topic who claims that Kennedy was killed by someone other than Oswald. I will find you numerous others to the contrary. Sure there are a bunch of crackpot semi-scientists who do this and that and bellow on about the grassy knoll but when sujected to rigorous scientific experiment it has been shown that not only was it possible for Oswald to have been the lone shooter it was actually almost impossible for him to have not been. There have been scientifically conducting recreations which exactly recreated the bullet trajectories into Kennedy and the governor.
GTripp0012 06-08-2008, 12:46 AM What does this even mean?
Are you implying that an understanding of physics would prove to someone that Kennedy was killed via conspiracy? Do you even know what you are talking about? I dare you to find one reputable, REPUTABLE, source who has done any scientific research into this topic who claims that Kennedy was killed by someone other than Oswald. I will find you numerous others to the contrary. Sure there are a bunch of crackpot semi-scientists who do this and that and bellow on about the grassy knoll but when sujected to rigorous scientific experiment it has been shown that not only was it possible for Oswald to have been the lone shooter it was actually almost impossible for him to have not been. There have been scientifically conducting recreations which exactly recreated the bullet trajectories into Kennedy and the governor.Going through High School, I was basically taught that the Warren Commission did a questionable job, and that one would be foolish to believe that Oswald acted alone.
I've actually never seen any specific evidence on one side or the other. Obviously, lots of public educators have agendas in today's day and age, but I never saw any benefit to proving a JFK conspiracy.
Do you know of any possible reason that a conspiracy proof could help support liberal viewpoint of the JFK assassination? I'm very curious, but I can't really see any motive to distort the truth here...which is exactly what is being done in public schools.
The Goat 06-08-2008, 01:26 AM I am a Bush basher and was against going to Iraq in the first instance, but I think many people incorrectly think that the GOP has a monopoly on deceit, manipulation, fear mongering, etc. For whatever reason, so many Dems seem to think that their own sh*t doesn't stink. To me, the stench of Dem and Repub pooh stinks equally. It just happens that we are currently up to our eyes in Repub feces. I am waiting for the Dems to get into office so they can take a dump on our faces.
And no....I do not have a pooh fetish.
Huh, coulda fooled me. My guess was that you're a clinically depressed fecophiliac on prozac.
Sheriff Gonna Getcha 06-08-2008, 02:20 AM My history is not "off". I suppose you believe Pearl Harbor was a "surprise attack" and that Oswald acted alone. Mine is a matter of opinion based on fact. Gee...you would't be a ....republican
You wouldn't be the stereotypical conspiracy theorist "enlightened" young college Dem?
dblanch66 06-08-2008, 03:19 AM What does this even mean?
Are you implying that an understanding of physics would prove to someone that Kennedy was killed via conspiracy? Do you even know what you are talking about? I dare you to find one reputable, REPUTABLE, source who has done any scientific research into this topic who claims that Kennedy was killed by someone other than Oswald. I will find you numerous others to the contrary. Sure there are a bunch of crackpot semi-scientists who do this and that and bellow on about the grassy knoll but when sujected to rigorous scientific experiment it has been shown that not only was it possible for Oswald to have been the lone shooter it was actually almost impossible for him to have not been. There have been scientifically conducting recreations which exactly recreated the bullet trajectories into Kennedy and the governor.
uh...watch the film...which, by the way, is the only footage of Kennedy's assasination and probably not counted on by the architects of the conspiracy. When someone's head snaps backwards and a hunk of their head comes off from the FRONT, physics dictates that the force came from IN FRONT of the target. But hey, believe what you want. We can agree to disagree but at least watch the cleaned up version of the film (available on Netflix, by the way) and then see if you feel the same way. THEN watch extensive footage of Oswald after he was arrested. He said time and again that he was a patsy. Being in custody already, he had no reason to lie because I'm sure he knew he was pretty much fucked regardless of what he said, so why not just admit to the crime? Who was Jack Ruby? Nah...no one wanted Oswald silenced, right? Oh pah-leeeeze. If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and waddles like a duck, it might be a duck.
dblanch66 06-08-2008, 03:21 AM You wouldn't be the stereotypical conspiracy theorist "enlightened" young college Dem?
I went to college. don't think I'm that young anymore, there ace.
FRPLG 06-08-2008, 10:17 PM uh...watch the film...which, by the way, is the only footage of Kennedy's assasination and probably not counted on by the architects of the conspiracy. When someone's head snaps backwards and a hunk of their head comes off from the FRONT, physics dictates that the force came from IN FRONT of the target. But hey, believe what you want. We can agree to disagree but at least watch the cleaned up version of the film (available on Netflix, by the way) and then see if you feel the same way. THEN watch extensive footage of Oswald after he was arrested. He said time and again that he was a patsy. Being in custody already, he had no reason to lie because I'm sure he knew he was pretty much fucked regardless of what he said, so why not just admit to the crime? Who was Jack Ruby? Nah...no one wanted Oswald silenced, right? Oh pah-leeeeze. If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and waddles like a duck, it might be a duck.
You're are simply wrong. You are regurgitating common pop knowledge "truisms" that are simply wrong.
First of all when a high powreed rifle hits a life form, it is not only common but almost always the case that the exit wound is larger, much larger, than the entry. That is the truth. The debate about the movement of the head is just that. Most scientists who know what they' are talking about find nothing perplexing with the movement of JFK's head.
I guess I shouldn't say there wasn't a conspiracy but what I am saying is that physics in this case confirms that the bullet that killed Kennedy came from behind him. Plain and simple. And I am not basing that on me just "knowing" physics. I base that on what I have been told by actual scientists who know what they are talking about. Refer to Peter Jenkins' entire show about the assasination where they took a 3-d recreation that the gentlemen had worked for decades to perfect that proved that the bullet that went through Kennedy certainly struck the Govenro without any "magic bullet" physics.
This is a retarded argument. I am done. I'll settle for knowing I am right.
dblanch66 06-08-2008, 10:24 PM You're are simply wrong. You are regurgitating common pop knowledge "truisms" that are simply wrong.
First of all when a high powreed rifle hits a life form, it is not only common but almost always the case that the exit wound is larger, much larger, than the entry. That is the truth. The debate about the movement of the head is just that. Most scientists who know what they' are talking about find nothing perplexing with the movement of JFK's head.
I guess I shouldn't say there wasn't a conspiracy but what I am saying is that physics in this case confirms that the bullet that killed Kennedy came from behind him. Plain and simple. And I am not basing that on me just "knowing" physics. I base that on what I have been told by actual scientists who know what they are talking about. Refer to Peter Jenkins' entire show about the assasination where they took a 3-d recreation that the gentlemen had worked for decades to perfect that proved that the bullet that went through Kennedy certainly struck the Govenro without any "magic bullet" physics.
This is a retarded argument. I am done. I'll settle for knowing I am right.
No. You are wrong. There ya go. Watch the film. Draw your own conclusions. I'm sure Oswald was so good a marksman that he could get off 3 shots with a bolt action rifle in a matter of 12 second. Bullcrap. Try it. And for argument's sake, even if the bullet came from behind, you still believe Oswald did it alone..? Go to the building in Dallas and see for yourself. Hmmmmm...why do they have the window sectioned off???? Maybe cause if you saw the view he had you'd say to yourself..."uh...there's no friggin' way!" So unless you've been there, please don't argue about something out of your tuchus.
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