dmek25
06-02-2008, 06:36 AM
dblanch, tell us how you really feel? i agree with what you said. but you usually steer clear of political discussions
Bush's former press secretary says Bush misled U.S. on Iraqdmek25 06-02-2008, 06:36 AM dblanch, tell us how you really feel? i agree with what you said. but you usually steer clear of political discussions BleedBurgundy 06-02-2008, 08:31 AM McClellan has some kind words for Bush, calling him "a man of personal charm, wit and enormous political skill." He writes that the president "did not consciously set out to engage in these destructive practices. But like others before him, he chose to play the Washington game the way he found it, rather than changing the culture as he vowed to do at the outset of his campaign for the presidency." This seems to be the case with many elected officials. Let's see if that changes with the next President. I won't hold my breath. 70Chip 06-03-2008, 03:10 AM Republican, Democrat, Independent, Green, Whig, Tory...doesn't matter. Bush sucks as a president. I don't care how much of a "good guy" he is, he was our worst president besides Hoover. I'd rather have a president who's an asshole as long as he or she knows how to run the country with forsight, intelligence, tact, diplomacy, creativity, toughness, open mindedness and humility. None of which George Bush possesses. I wasn't alive for Hoover but I was for Jimmy Carter and all the adults around me were ready to revolt if he had been reelected. There's no way he would have survived a second term. He was positively reviled. Also, Bush will not face an impeachment hearing which is something Clinton, Nixon, and Johnson couldn't say. In addition, James Buchanan, who was an homosexual, allowed the country to slip to the brink of civil war, so your history is off. 70Chip 06-03-2008, 03:25 AM Christopher Hitchens weighs in: If you want to read a serious book about the intervention in Iraq, try War and Decision. - By Christopher Hitchens - Slate Magazine (http://www.slate.com/id/2192696/) SmootSmack 06-03-2008, 09:56 AM I wasn't alive for Hoover but I was for Jimmy Carter and all the adults around me were ready to revolt if he had been reelected. There's no way he would have survived a second term. He was positively reviled. Also, Bush will not face an impeachment hearing which is something Clinton, Nixon, and Johnson couldn't say. In addition, James Buchanan, who was an homosexual, allowed the country to slip to the brink of civil war, so your history is off. Everything I heard and read about Carter indicates he was pretty awful, and has only made things worse over the years. Maybe he should have just stuck with Habitat for Humanity https://www.commentarymagazine.com/viewarticle.cfm/our-worst-ex-president-10824?page=all Buchanan is interesting, because his worst crime (apart from apparently being pro-slavery) is that he really did nothing because he felt (I think correctly) that constitutionally he didn't have the power to do anything (in regards to secession). Today, we complain when a President invokes executive power and takes action, but we could have avoided a major civil war had Buchanan (and Pierce) done such a thing over 150 years ago. (I mean I believe Lincoln did so during the Civil War) Then again, it may have made no difference. As for the homosexual part. I never knew that was actually proven. I've only heard it speculated. Secondly, what does it matter? What was the point of even throwing that comment in there? redsk1 06-03-2008, 11:20 AM This just in: The gov't uses propaganda to "sell" a war. Amazing. Have we ever fought a war where there was no propaganda? FRPLG 06-03-2008, 11:25 AM Everything I heard and read about Carter indicates he was pretty awful, and has only made things worse over the years. Maybe he should have just stuck with Habitat for Humanity https://www.commentarymagazine.com/viewarticle.cfm/our-worst-ex-president-10824?page=all Buchanan is interesting, because his worst crime (apart from apparently being pro-slavery) is that he really did nothing because he felt (I think correctly) that constitutionally he didn't have the power to do anything (in regards to secession). Today, we complain when a President invokes executive power and takes action, but we could have avoided a major civil war had Buchanan (and Pierce) done such a thing over 150 years ago. (I mean I believe Lincoln did so during the Civil War) Then again, it may have made no difference. Despite how we view Honest Abe we can trace the socialization of our republic back to his decisions. Up until the Civil war our country operated much differently and more within the ideals of the founding fathers in terms of limited national government. After the war our country became much more nationalistic and states rights have been eroding ever since. steveo395 06-03-2008, 12:45 PM Despite how we view Honest Abe we can trace the socialization of our republic back to his decisions. Up until the Civil war our country operated much differently and more within the ideals of the founding fathers in terms of limited national government. After the war our country became much more nationalistic and states rights have been eroding ever since. FDR had a big part in that too firstdown 06-03-2008, 12:46 PM This just in: The gov't uses propaganda to "sell" a war. Amazing. Have we ever fought a war where there was no propaganda? I'd say when the Japanes attacked us at Pearl Harbor that was propaganda enough. steveo395 06-03-2008, 01:07 PM I'd say when the Japanes attacked us at Pearl Harbor that was propaganda enough. Thats why we sent most of our troops to Europe... |
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