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T.O.Killa 05-23-2008, 10:33 PM No thanks on James , he could'nt even produce when healthy. We need a nickel DB, this team is going to be amongst the worst in the league in pass defense. I gurantee it ruins our season. Malcom Kelly instead of patrick lee was a questionable move. If Springs get hurt (likely), we are done.
I think that is a little harsh. Cornerbacks are the same as last year. Torrence did a good job at the end of the season. He has worked extremely hard in the offseason and I think he will be better this year. Rogers should be back at some point. I think we will be fine this year. What we need is a replacement for Springs in 2009.
T.O.Killa 05-23-2008, 10:35 PM I think it would be an excelent signing, to sign this guy.
I think it's pretty telling that he couldn't produce even though he played next to Pro Bowl DTs. I think it also says something that the team was willing to give up on a 25 year old former 1st rounder and they thought he had no trade value whatsoever.
4 sacks in 15 games isn't great but he was a rookie.
skinsnut 05-23-2008, 10:54 PM Can someone please tell us what is up with this guys injuries?
If he's injury prone, Im sure we can account for that in the contract.
Why not offer him a 2 year deal.
I thought he was a pass rushing end coming out of college?
We need some info on this guy....can someone help?
I am intrigued..
PFunk26 05-23-2008, 11:18 PM being a badger fan he was pretty awesome when healthy, his main prob was i don't think he ever played a full season anywhere, college or pros. I was excited when the Vikings took him, being born in Minnesota the Vikes are my familys team so i kinda pull for them (when not facing the Skins of course). But I thinks he's blown up everything in at least one of his knees, great college pass rusher though. If we picked him up would need heavy performance clauses but if can ever return to college form I'd love to have him. And on a side note yes I'm from MN, moved to Wisconsin, Love the Badgers, Redskins, Brewers,Suns and pull for the Vikes. Strange I know.
RIGGO/NYC 05-23-2008, 11:30 PM I think that is a little harsh. Cornerbacks are the same as last year. Torrence did a good job at the end of the season. He has worked extremely hard in the offseason and I think he will be better this year. Rogers should be back at some point. I think we will be fine this year. What we need is a replacement for Springs in 2009.
How is that harsh? Do you really think without springs, with our pass rush, that we will hold up against eli and the ny receivers and romo and the cowboys receivers? We play in the best division in the league; yeah we have a good team, but without a no.1 corner, we will have a tough time with Dallas and NY. I bleed skins, but I do not agree with not taking a corner in the second round or at least signing depth there. This is a passing league. The cowboys are stacked, Martellus Bennett is 6'7 and he's better than Fred Davis. Him, Witten and T.O. tough!!!!!!! I do think our offense and our run defense will be good.
skinsnut 05-23-2008, 11:39 PM I really dont know how good this guy can be but I still think we need FA help at DE.
The way I see it we can get one in one of the following ways.
Trade
Pick up an FA old guy
Pick up a FA guy with injury issues
Try to get lucky with the CFL
Yeah, this guy was supposed to be good...but he didn't put up great numbers when he was starting...so I think he is potential depth at best...but his age sure is attractive
Sheriff Gonna Getcha 05-24-2008, 12:03 AM 4 sacks in 15 games isn't great but he was a rookie.
In the 8 games he started since his rookie season he has 9 total tackles and 1 sack. I'm not saying he wouldn't be a decent depth signing, but his history of injuries and his lack of production are meaningful. Anyone who expects him to be some stud just because he's a former 1st rounder is kidding themselves.
T.O.Killa 05-24-2008, 12:48 AM How is that harsh? Do you really think without springs, with our pass rush, that we will hold up against eli and the ny receivers and romo and the cowboys receivers? We play in the best division in the league; yeah we have a good team, but without a no.1 corner, we will have a tough time with Dallas and NY. I bleed skins, but I do not agree with not taking a corner in the second round or at least signing depth there. This is a passing league. The cowboys are stacked, Martellus Bennett is 6'7 and he's better than Fred Davis. Him, Witten and T.O. tough!!!!!!! I do think our offense and our run defense will be good.
I dont understand, as far as I know Springs is still on the team and our best corner.
RIGGO/NYC 05-24-2008, 12:59 AM Im just saying I am nervous putting the season on the line of a 33 year old cornerback who's been injured his whole NFL career. Smoot will never be a NO. 1 corner and Tryon and Torrence can not be No. 2s or maybee not even 3's. Rogers will not be himself this season. I think with Mix on the team, we should have drafted Lee and not Kelly. This is relevant to the pass rush, becaue without one it makes are CB's even more vulnerable.
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