MTK
05-27-2008, 09:52 PM
damn that didn't take long
It's not Irish he has a legit account here.
It's not Irish he has a legit account here.
Time to extend Jason Campbell?MTK 05-27-2008, 09:52 PM damn that didn't take long It's not Irish he has a legit account here. irish 05-28-2008, 08:00 AM I thought it was pretty obvious that the playcalling was more aggressive with Collins in the lineup and rightfully so. He knew the offense inside and out, while Campbell was in his 2nd season in it. If it wasn't playcalling then what was it? Because the stats simply don't support your claim that JC couldn't move the ball. I agree that the playcalling was more agressive but thats because TC could handle it while JC couldnt. JC has to improve his throwing technique and his decision making speed. Last year TC was light years faster so we'll have to see if JC can make any improvement. I really think this is a make or break year for JC. He has been in the league awhile now and this is not the coaching staff that gave up a bunch of picks to draft him, he has to perform or I really believe Zorn & Co will look for another QB. BTW, I can state for the record that I am not and never have been hogtimus prime. MTK 05-28-2008, 04:23 PM You have to wonder though... was the conservative nature of the play calling justified with Campbell in the lineup? Because when the reins were loosened up a bit and he was allowed to sling it around in the no-huddle and call his own plays, he played very well. I think Gibbs was perhaps a little too protective of him. I don't think we'll see the same from Zorn though. GTripp0012 05-28-2008, 09:58 PM You have to wonder though... was the conservative nature of the play calling justified with Campbell in the lineup? Because when the reins were loosened up a bit and he was allowed to sling it around in the no-huddle and call his own plays, he played very well. I think Gibbs was perhaps a little too protective of him. I don't think we'll see the same from Zorn though.Officially though, I don't think it made a big difference. He would have been just as successful if they opened it up, more INT's balanced out by higher YPA. I think they were conservative due to the injuries more than anything. When you have injuries, you absolutely have to play it more conservative. The thought process was that if they could get a healthy team going into the playoffs, Campbell might be able to shine there. As it was, he didn't make it that far. Thank you Jason Fabini. irish 05-29-2008, 08:09 AM Officially though, I don't think it made a big difference. He would have been just as successful if they opened it up, more INT's balanced out by higher YPA. I think they were conservative due to the injuries more than anything. When you have injuries, you absolutely have to play it more conservative. The thought process was that if they could get a healthy team going into the playoffs, Campbell might be able to shine there. As it was, he didn't make it that far. Thank you Jason Fabini. I dont think Gibbs was protecting him, I think Gibbs saw that JC couldnt make the decisions quick enough. They wouldnt have been as successful because JC just couldnt have handled it. As mentioned above, we will see with Zorn. GTripp0012 05-29-2008, 11:36 AM I dont think Gibbs was protecting him, I think Gibbs saw that JC couldnt make the decisions quick enough. They wouldnt have been as successful because JC just couldnt have handled it. As mentioned above, we will see with Zorn.Injuries though, #1 reason for sure. After that, you may be right who knows. It's possible that you could be totally right and Gibbs totally wrong and Campbell has a monster year. Could happen. MTK 05-29-2008, 11:51 AM Good article, note this section: Jason Campbell went 8-for-11 for 88 yards during that stretch, using an approach that was strikingly different from the usual Gibbs philosophy. Instead of emphasizing the run and taking the occasional deep shot, the quarterback moved the team down the field with a mixture of runs and short passes, borrowing a page from the West Coast offense. Redskins players lobby Gibbs to go no-huddle: 'We went out and made it work' - USATODAY.com (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/2007-11-14-3409518821_x.htm) skinsnut 05-30-2008, 10:24 AM test post, didn't see post 61-67...it was showing a page 5 when I hovered over it said post 61-71, but when I clicked on page 5 it it took me to page 4..there must have been no real posts there on 5 yet...now page 5 is real because of this post. Confused KokoMike 05-30-2008, 05:50 PM What I really want to see is how Zorn deals with Campbell's very, very slow delivery. Unless Campbell can make quicker decisions and unload more quickly, he won't go to the next level. If he does get to the next level, pay him. If not, don't pay top dollar for average play. Hold off for now. skinsnut 09-28-2008, 09:29 PM Last year we extended contracts for key players...such as Cooley and Betts. These moves were highly praised. I know a few here think Campbell may not be our long term answer because of his winning record....However, I do believe he is solid and will improve. The best time to buy is when perceived value is low. The last thing we want to do is wait until after he has a breakout year to double his value. At worst, he will not improve...which is still better than any QB the Skins have had since Brad Johnson...(excluding Collins' 4 game push and Brunell for a short time) What do you think? Should we use our 07 cap space to lock up JC? Schneed....what is his likely value now and can it work with the cap space we have? Well folks...most respondants to this offseason thread wanted to wait and see before extending Campbell.... The first quarter of the year is over.... I say...time to extend Campbell, what do you think now? |
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