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skinsfan69 05-13-2008, 01:15 PM Some have touched on it. My thing is ultimately, I care if the Redskins win or lose. I don't care how they do it. If they do it by buying every player in sight and they win a title, I'll be happy. If they forego free agency and win a title, I'll be happy. They can win it eating spam, they can win it with green eggs and ham, they can win it with a coach named Sam.
Ws and Ls folks.
Admit it, come Sundays in the fall, you're all going to give two craps about how Louis Riddick was let go. Hell, come Sundays in the fall, you'll be like Riddick who???
Bad PR move. Who the frick cares. Will it affect wins and losses? No, then what freakin ever.
LOL! Yeah but it's May and there isn't shit to talk about. Even NFL Network is getting tough to watch right now. I mean they are showing repeats of the Cheifs in training camp and I'm so hard up for some football I watch it. , even though I've already seen it. Any news is good news. Even if it's bad or boring news.
SmootSmack 05-13-2008, 01:40 PM It'd be nice if JLC applied the same amount of scrutiny and "inside info" on the promotion process of Eric Schaffer as he did on the firing of Louis Riddick.
SC Skins Fan 05-13-2008, 02:36 PM More here ... Front Office Shake-Up - Redskins Insider (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/05/front_office_shakeup.html#more)
freddyg12 05-13-2008, 02:57 PM Everyone's been jumpin all over JLC lately about his opinion of the draft, the coaching search & now this. True, he only can gain access to so many people at redskins park & his views are of course affected by them, but he at least he does talk to somebody there.
He also talks to other nfl people, who if you read the blog regulary, have both criticized & complimented the skins over the years. e.g. he quoted a source last summer that said putting Heyer in at LT during the preseason was crazy (which I can agree with). The same source later in the year said Buges had done a good job of coahing Heyer up.
Is it still a surprise to anyone that people from other teams have negative views of the Skins management? Is it still a mystery to any of us here why the Skins have the rep they do under Snyder? It shouldn't be, and while I give the danny et al credit for adjusting over the years, I still think it's too early to say that they've changed their ways & are building a consistent, winning team. Are there good signs of improvement? Yes, but things would look a lot different now to me if we'd made the deal w/Cincy.
JLC, if you believe him, has seen a good deal of the danny's dysfunctional moves over the years. He's also been told one thing by skins mgmt., only to see things go differently. Is he too jaded to see anything good now? I really don't think so, I think he's doing what most any person would in his shoes; be skeptical.
I hope Vinny is really good at what he does, and I also believe he deserves a fair chance at running the show. I'm not one of those that was always calling for his head, because I've never been able to tell who is calling most of the shots anyway. Now that it appears he's running the show, I'll be as patient as possible, likewise w/Zorn. However, I won't be the least bit surprised if & when a lot of people here start calling out vinny again.
Yeah, firing somebody in this biz is no big deal & I"m not saying it's "bad PR." But I will go so far as to say that it's not unreasonable to look at moves like this and associate them w/a past pattern of behavior that was unhealthy as JLC did.
If I would criticize JLC for anything it would be that he didn't elaborate enough in the past or in this article about Gibbs' coming close to replacing some of the scouting dept.
Paintrain 05-13-2008, 03:11 PM I don't really see how this is even worthy of the whole article JLC did. His ax to grind with Snyderatto is getting pretty tiresome. One of the biggest complaints about the Redskins is how poorly they've done in free agency, who was in charge of the department that scouted other pro's? Riddick. Now it's an issue that he's gone? It's like arguing with a woman, the only right answer is what suits their argument at the time.
FRPLG 05-13-2008, 03:16 PM It'd be nice if JLC applied the same amount of scrutiny and "inside info" on the promotion process of Eric Schaffer as he did on the firing of Louis Riddick.
Novel idea. It goes to the the crowd he runs with when it comes to the Skins. They see negativity in everything so that's what he knows. He is set up to think this front office is a sham by those inside who wanted it to go another way in terms of the coaching search or who plan just don't like Snyder/Cerratto. I don't blame the guy all that much but it is tiresome. His blog at one point was a must read throughout the year.
Slingin Sammy 33 05-13-2008, 04:05 PM IIt's like arguing with a woman, the only right answer is what suits their argument at the time.
You must know my wife....LOL
T.O.Killa 05-13-2008, 09:17 PM I don't really see how this is even worthy of the whole article JLC did. His ax to grind with Snyderatto is getting pretty tiresome. One of the biggest complaints about the Redskins is how poorly they've done in free agency, who was in charge of the department that scouted other pro's? Riddick. Now it's an issue that he's gone? It's like arguing with a woman, the only right answer is what suits their argument at the time.
I am with you. I still check his site, because it gives us constant Redskins news, but I am sick of him critizing the Redskins organization. They are getiing better, with experience. We have had more success in the last four years, than the previous fifteen.
djnemo65 05-13-2008, 11:01 PM I don't really see how this is even worthy of the whole article JLC did. His ax to grind with Snyderatto is getting pretty tiresome. One of the biggest complaints about the Redskins is how poorly they've done in free agency, who was in charge of the department that scouted other pro's? Riddick. Now it's an issue that he's gone? It's like arguing with a woman, the only right answer is what suits their argument at the time.
That's well said. Who has been more critical of the Redskins' recent free agent acquisitions than JLC? I don't think JLC has held true to his bargain to be less critical as the team becomes more successful (they have, he hasn't) and this is another example of that.
skinsfan69 05-14-2008, 12:01 AM More here ... Front Office Shake-Up - Redskins Insider (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/05/front_office_shakeup.html#more)
I guess someone had to take the fall for Lloyd and Arch. It's Vinny's show now so he is the one guy we can all point to.
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