Bears cut Adam Archuleta

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Sheriff Gonna Getcha
05-07-2008, 01:37 PM
Arch is one of my top suspects as a player who was on the juice until he got his big contract and then figured why chance it and stopped sprinkling HGH in his scrambled eggs. Just a hunch, but can anyone else explain why he went from very fast when he was drafted all the way to the opposite end of the spectrum of being too slow to be a full time starter?

I think Archuleta had decent speed, he just wasn't very agile and his read and react cover skills were less than spectacular. Remember when Witten burned him in 2006 at FedEx in the closing seconds of the game? Archuleta bit on a move, got spun around and couldn't catch up to Witten. I think it's safe to say Arch is faster than Witten, but Witten just juked his ass and got by him.

JoeRedskin
05-07-2008, 01:42 PM
Arch is one of my top suspects as a player who was on the juice until he got his big contract and then figured why chance it and stopped sprinkling HGH in his scrambled eggs. Just a hunch, but can anyone else explain why he went from very fast when he was drafted all the way to the opposite end of the spectrum of being too slow to be a full time starter?

I thought he had a back injury or back problems before we got him.

GMScud
05-07-2008, 01:52 PM
Arch's problem his entire career has been speed, or lack thereof. He's constantly getting burned and always has been. He shoulda swallowed his pride, bulked up a bit, and played OLB. I think this way he would have had a lot more success in this league.

The funny thing is the Bears cut him to make room for the next Archuleta, S Craig Steltz from LSU.

J. Spanky
05-07-2008, 02:08 PM
The funny thing is the Bears cut him to make room for the next Archuleta, S Craig Steltz from LSU.

that's true. i really don't know what the bears are doing. i scratched my head at just about every draft pick they made. it's hard to knock them, being that they just went to the superbowl 2 years ago with virtually the same team they had this past season. but they seem like the raiders after they lost the big game to the bucs. like they over-achieved and now they can't remember how.

Dirtbag59
05-07-2008, 02:47 PM
For Vet Min Yes

SAY NO TO THE VET MIN FOR EVERY AVAILABLE PLAYER!!! WHY AM I TYPING IN ALL CAPS? WHY ARE THEIR TWO GREEN LIGHTS ON THE TOP RIGHT PORTION OF THE KEYBOARD?

In all seriousness we frown on people suggesting the veteran minimum. Especially considering that

1) Archuletta is set for life in terms of money

2) Archuletta has a strained relationship with the franchise that would take some major butt kissing to repair. IE Washington is the last place he would sign.

3) Maybe you already up to speed and the vet min comment was a joke and in that case I look like a complete jackass.

wilsowilso
05-07-2008, 03:11 PM
Arch's problem his entire career has been speed, or lack thereof. He's constantly getting burned and always has been. He shoulda swallowed his pride, bulked up a bit, and played OLB. I think this way he would have had a lot more success in this league.

See that is what some people think, but it's just not the case. Archuleta ran a 4.37 at his pro day and did 32 reps at 225 at the combine. He literaly blew people away and went from a third round projection to a first round pick. Arch ran around a 4.4 several other times. That is crazy fast for a safety(Laron Landry ran a 4.35 and is considered the fastest safety in the league). It seems that Archuleta left all his speed in St Louis becasue when he got here he looked slow. What's up with that is what I've been saying ever since I saw him in a Redskin or Bears uniform. How can one account for such a dramatic dropoff?

Here is a link for Arch's pro day and combine results.

Looking for the NFL Combine 'wow' factor -- ChicagoSports.com (http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/cs-080219-archuleta-nfl-combine,1,4537123.story)

GMScud
05-07-2008, 03:22 PM
See that is what some people think, but it's just not the case. Archuleta ran a 4.37 at his pro day and did 32 reps at 225 at the combine. He literaly blew people away and went from a third round projection to a first round pick. Arch ran around a 4.4 several other times. That is crazy fast for a safety(Laron Landry ran a 4.35 and is considered the fastest safety in the league). It seems that Archuleta left all his speed in St Louis becasue when he got here he looked slow. What's up with that is what I've been saying ever since I saw him in a Redskin or Bears uniform. How can one account for such a dramatic dropoff?

Here is a link for Arch's pro day and combine results.

Looking for the NFL Combine 'wow' factor -- ChicagoSports.com (http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/cs-080219-archuleta-nfl-combine,1,4537123.story)

Well, regardless of his combine numbers, it IS the case. The guy has never been a very good safety. 40 yard dash speed doesn't necessarily translate to football speed. Maybe his lateral speed isn't good. Maybe he isn't as fast in pads. Maybe he has poor reaction time to passes or isn't good at reading the QB. Any way you slice it, he ALWAYS seemed two steps behind every stinkin pass play. So his despite fancy combine numbers, speed is his problem.

I seem to remember everyone raving about his workout prowess when we signed him (me included). That prowess never translated to success on Sunday's for him.

wilsowilso
05-07-2008, 03:27 PM
Well, regardless of his combine numbers, it IS the case. The guy has never been a very good safety. 40 yard dash speed doesn't necessarily translate to football speed. Maybe his lateral speed isn't good. Maybe he isn't as fast in pads. Maybe he has poor reaction time to passes or isn't good at reading the QB. Any way you slice it, he ALWAYS seemed two steps behind every stinkin pass play. So his despite fancy combine numbers, speed is his problem.

I seem to remember everyone raving about his workout prowess when we signed him (me included). That prowess never translated to success on Sunday's for him.

Hey I was just trying to make my point that Archuleta seemingly went from a very fast human being to an average Joe. That makes me feel like he was on performance enhancing something. He was a pretty good safety in St Louis, but at some point his performance level just evaporated even before he ever hit his prime years. It's fishy.

GMScud
05-07-2008, 03:32 PM
Hey I was just trying to make my point that Archuleta seemingly went from a very fast human being to an average Joe. That makes me feel like he was on performance enhancing something. He was a pretty good safety in St Louis, but at some point his performance level just evaporated even before he ever hit his prime years. It's fishy.

Wasn't trying to jump down your throat, sorry if it came off that way.

He was decent in St. Louis, but certainly not worthy of the biggest contract ever given to a safety (at that time), which we gave him. That further raised the expectations of a guy who was a beast in the weight room and on the track, and average on the field. I wouldn't be surprised if he was juicing as well.

tluc242
05-07-2008, 03:57 PM
Archuleta was a Slow Dog, it is good that he has finally been placed out in the junkyard where all Slow Dogs end up!!!! What a waste of time and money on this &*^^%&^ of a football player

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