SC Skins Fan
05-09-2008, 04:24 PM
we can round and round about specific games. look at the arizona game this year the redskins won and amassed 178 yards or so of total offense. campbell was awful. most of the points were setup off of Skins picks - taylor (RIP) and Fletcher.
Jason also led the drive that won the game and made a huge play when he held the ball instead of executing the shovel pass that was called to Clinton Portis. Calvin Pace had the play diagnosed and was ready to blow up Portis or intercept the ball. Seeing that Campbell decided to keep the ball and ran something like 14 yards for a 1st down. Watch the games ...
goredskins1983
05-09-2008, 04:37 PM
well, even rex grossman and trent edwards have thrown a game winning TD. would you say they are good?
again, look at the overall record as a starter and his QB rating......
4-6 and 78%....not even average
SC Skins Fan
05-09-2008, 04:56 PM
well, even rex grossman and trent edwards have thrown a game winning TD. would you say they are good?
again, look at the overall record as a starter and his QB rating......
4-6 and 78%....not even average
Grossman, no; Trent Edwards, I don't know because he hasn't started enough games, which is the same thing I'd say about Campbell (I'd rather judge a QB after 30 starts). Also, I don't even know where you are getting your numbers from. I mean, the actually numbers might actually support your case more, but where are you getting 4-6 as a starter? It is like 7-12 actually. Just sloppy on your part since the real numbers would actually lend to your argument.
Swarley
05-09-2008, 05:01 PM
It seems that if there isn't a real QB controversy some of us create on ourselves lol. It's really as simple as Campbell is much younger then Collins and he's the QB that Zorn wants running (and learning) his offense.
goredskins1983
05-09-2008, 05:07 PM
was referring to this year. actually it was 5-6. either way its below average.
Swarley
05-09-2008, 05:10 PM
what exactly is the "average" that he is below. Can you find that for me.
goredskins1983
05-09-2008, 05:16 PM
well lets see smart guy, normally you need a winning record to make the playoffs
GhostSkins
05-09-2008, 05:29 PM
You win, I think Zorn should spend the offseason tearing apart Collins mechanics and rebuilding them so he can put together 1-2 seasons of quality game managment for us until he starts drawing Social Security. That would have worked great in Seattle too. Zorn could have spent his time with Trent Dilfer and not wasted any time on that Matt Hasselbeck kid (3 probowls) who was below average. Lord knows developing a probowler for the next decade or so is not near as important as what happens games 1-6 this season.
JWsleep
05-09-2008, 05:37 PM
Must be the offseason... :sleep:
Warren85Ellard
05-09-2008, 05:43 PM
Hey, I'm still pissed that Kent Graham never got the chance to be our starter after the 2001 season!! Seriously though, Collins/Campbell is a tough call, but Campbell is our future. I think SC Skins Fan has already cleared it up for those who don't think Campbell has the skills to take us all the way. Just be glad we have a very competent backup in Todd Collins and let Jason Campbell lead the way.