Picking Kelly over Sweed

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EARTHQUAKE2689
05-03-2008, 11:05 AM
How many times does anyone just run 40 yards in the NFL without changing direction at all?

Stuck in TX
05-03-2008, 11:42 AM
How many times does anyone just run 40 yards in the NFL without changing direction at all?

every time you run a fade

SeanTaylor21
05-03-2008, 02:25 PM
every time you run a fade

Or just a go route.

EARTHQUAKE2689
05-03-2008, 02:59 PM
so only 2 routes that Moss or Randle El or Devin Thomas can run. You dont have to be a bunner to be a good reciever. Remember game speed and timed speed 2 different things.

EARTHQUAKE2689
05-03-2008, 03:00 PM
every time you run a fade

so the fade route that won the super bowl was 40 yards cause I could have sworn it was like 14

Longtimefan
05-03-2008, 04:17 PM
Didn't this guy run the same speed 40 as Jerry Rice? I'm not saying he's going to be Jerry Rice -- what I am saying is straight line speed may not be the best NFL indicator.


Too much is made of 40 times, with Kelly, his ability to explode off the the line, get position on DB's, and use his frame to shield defenders will be more important in this offense than straight line speed. His ability to go in the middle (where we hardly threw the ball at all last year) and make the tough catch to move the chains is just as valuable an asset as speed. I consider him a perfect comlement to Moss, and Randle El.

As far a comparing him to Limas Sweed, only time will tell on that one. It's difficult to try to make a production comparison at this time because there's nothing to compare them too. We need to see them both play at the NFL level in order to make any determination.

bedlamVR
05-04-2008, 04:40 PM
Yeah, but the point was no one is going to confuse Keyshawn Johnson for Steve Smith/Terrell Owens/Randy Moss/Chad Johnson/Torry Holt.

That's the kind of player Malcolm Kelly can never be. A very good player is something he can be.

No one is going to mistake steve smith for Terrell Owens or Regie Wayne for Rnady Moss because although they are all WR they all play the game differently ... Johnson was one of the top WRs in the game until people focused on his attitude rather than his production ... I don't see how you can write Kelly off because he is similar to another NFL star who didn't quite live up to his extremely lofty expectations ...

jsarno
05-04-2008, 05:29 PM
No one is going to mistake steve smith for Terrell Owens or Regie Wayne for Rnady Moss because although they are all WR they all play the game differently ... Johnson was one of the top WRs in the game until people focused on his attitude rather than his production ... I don't see how you can write Kelly off because he is similar to another NFL star who didn't quite live up to his extremely lofty expectations ...

Good post.

ps- if Kelly turns out to be the next Keyshawn Johnson, we got a STEAL!

HOGTIMUS PRIME
05-04-2008, 08:15 PM
Too much is made of 40 times, with Kelly, his ability to explode off the the line, get position on DB's, and use his frame to shield defenders will be more important in this offense than straight line speed. His ability to go in the middle (where we hardly threw the ball at all last year) and make the tough catch to move the chains is just as valuable an asset as speed. I consider him a perfect complement to Moss, and Randle El.

As far a comparing him to Limas Sweed, only time will tell on that one. It's difficult to try to make a production comparison at this time because there's nothing to compare them too. We need to see them both play at the NFL level in order to make any determination.

Nice post LTF, kind of stole my thunder.

Burst, quickness, suddenness are IMO better attributes for a WR than flat line speed, these attributes will allow WR's to get open more frequently, couple that with Kelly's size, his ability to use his body to shield defenders, and his great hands, I believe he is a great fit for the WCO. He may not have tested well but his game speed looked very good to me, I do not believe that speed will be an issue with Kelly.

Although we had IMO more pressing needs in this draft I do believe we definitely picked a very talented draft, I look for almost the entire draft class to be on the opening day roster and that ain't bad.

As for the Sweed comparison? He received the nod on going over the middle, that evaluation couldn't be more wrong, he dropped plenty of passes in traffic over the middle, Kelly made every catch that he could put a finger on over the middle. I wouldn't be a happy camper right now if we had picked Sweed over Kelly, time will tell who really is better but I think it will be Kelly!

EARTHQUAKE2689
05-06-2008, 08:34 PM
Also Malcolm Kelly is more explosive off the ball than Sweed is in my opinion.

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