Overall Draft Grade for the Redskins

like what?

I'm OK with drafting Davis if they think he's going to be a good player. From what I saw he sure looked good at USC. But let's be real. First, this guy is not going to be an everydown player for us. With that pick we could've perhaps got a DE to walk in and start right away. And two we've already got pro bowl TE. So that limits Davis' playing time. I like the player but I just don't see him being a need for us. Makes no sense.

I'm OK with drafting Davis if they think he's going to be a good player. From what I saw he sure looked good at USC. But let's be real. First, this guy is not going to be an everydown player for us. With that pick we could've perhaps got a DE to walk in and start right away. And two we've already got pro bowl TE. So that limits Davis' playing time. I like the player but I just don't see him being a need for us. Makes no sense.

It makes sense if Zorn plans on using plenty of two TE sets, no?

But what if Moss and ARE had gotten hurt? Like they did this past year

You're right. I suppose we had more needs, if nothing else for depth, than we did picks. Oh well, that puts us in company w/ just about every other team in the league.

Overall, I give it a B-, I'll break my thoughts down by pick and wrap up with an overall:

Devin Thomas: 2nd Round Steal very good pick

Fred Davis: WTF...lol in all honesty though I've started to warm up to him a little bit, my understanding is he was a guy a lot of people thought would go in the first round, and from what I've heard Zorn seems to think that Davis and Cooley can exist in the same formation.

Malcom Kelly: I hear he's another steal, everyone says that the skins may have gotten the two best Receivers in the draft in him and Thomas, and lets be honest, outside of Moss and ARE we aren't exactly deep at the Wideout position right now.

Chad Rinehart: Finally a Lineman, and from what I hear a versatile one that can move between the Tackle and Guard positions fairly easily.

Justin "J.T." Tryon: Hope he's got speed, because he's very short 5'9", but we need CB's and someone thought he was the best one there at the time so who knows.

Durant Brooks: Finally someone who might be able to actually punt.

Kareem Moore: Another smaller dude at 5'11" but we need DB's and he was there.

Colt Brennan: Another possible steal, if nothing else, hopefully that solves the problem of a third stringer...

Rob Jackson: Possibly another Chris Wilson type DE?

Chris Horton: Just adding depth at DB

Overall I would like to have seen more Linemen on both sides of the ball, still not entirely sold on the Davis pick, but maybe that's the big reason I'm on here running my mouth while Cerrato is up there putting together a team. In any event, Zorn says he can make it work, so who knows. Hopefully we can find something after the June 1st cut down, but I have always been a little leery of taking one man's trash and trying to make it our treasure.

Fine. Let's take a look at some of the flaws in his argument



Yeah we have a history of making such horrible decisioins when we draft. Even the biggest haters know that's not true



OK, so then what do we need Thomas and Kelly for if we have Moss, El, Thrash, Mix? Which is it? I agree Fred Davis was a bit of a head scratcher but hardly a terrible pick. As for picking DEs, maybe but at that point we don't take one just to take one.



We had depth issues at several positions, and addressed plenty of them. Marcus Howard is fine, but we have Chris Wilson who is versatile enough to play both positions.



McGlynn's better because he's from a bigger program?



Yeah I think the pick was probably a bit high, but Frost was hardly tremendous



And the irony is he tops it all off by praising the Brennan move while taking a shot at Campbell.

This draft wasn't perfect, but awful?? No way

Let me ask you this. Do you think Pioli of NE, or Polian of Indy would offer basically 2 #1's for Chad Johnson? Or draft 2 young wr's back to back when you've already got a lot of $ tied up in two other guys? Or draft a TE in the second round when you've already got a pro bowl TE and you have a major need at DE? And Brennan was just a waste. No way do you even waste time on him. I mean some of these moves Vinny is making really is making me wonder. I don't think we had an awful draft. I just think it could've been so much better.

Let me ask you this. Do you think Pioli of NE, or Polian of Indy would offer basically 2 #1's for Chad Johnson? Or draft 2 young wr's back to back when you've already got a lot of $ tied up in two other guys? Or draft a TE in the second round when you've already got a pro bowl TE and you have a major need at DE? And Brennan was just a waste. No way do you even waste time on him. I mean some of these moves Vinny is making really is making me wonder. I don't think we had an awful draft. I just think it could've been so much better.

It sounds like we drafted based on the "best player available" philosophy. I think most GMs would agree that, in the long run, that's the best way to build a top notch franchise. Thomas, Kelly, Davis, and Brennan all appear to have been great values. I too wish we had drafted more linemen, but it's hard to take serious issue with the bpa philosophy.

I like the receivers we took, but we wasted a high pick on fred davis, TE wasnt a need, TE is more of a luxury pick. With that said I like the guy but we should have adressed DE and safety

It sounds like we drafted based on the "best player available" philosophy. I think most GMs would agree that, in the long run, that's the best way to build a top notch franchise. Thomas, Kelly, Davis, and Brennan all appear to have been great values. I too wish we had drafted more linemen, but it's hard to take serious issue with the bpa philosophy.

Vinny said they definitely followed that philosophy, and yes I think most would agree that's a method that's hard to argue with.

I like the receivers we took, but we wasted a high pick on fred davis, TE wasnt a need, TE is more of a luxury pick. With that said I like the guy but we should have adressed DE and safety

It would have been nice had we landed Campbell, but I think it's telling that our D-line coach is the former Miami D-line coach and we didn't draft Campbell despite having 3 2nd rounders. Aside from Campbell, there weren't any decent DEs worthy of our 2nd rounders (Groves is probably an OLB). Moreover we did draft a DE.

Similarly, there weren't any standouts at the safety position. Kenny Phillips was gone at 34 and this year's safety crop was otherwise pretty piss poor. Besides we did draft two safeties with late round picks.

I think if we were to rate the entire process, which would be inclusive of the draft day haul, as well as what we didn't do with the pick (trade for CJ), I'd bump it up to a B- or C+.

If instead of picking Devin Thomas, we selected Trevor Laws, this would be a pretty impressive haul. Laws, Kelly, Davis, Rinehart, Tryon...etc. That would help both sides of the ball immensely.

Instead, we helped one side of the ball immensely, and on the other side, we are just a year older. Thusly, we did alright, but we should have done better.

Valid points all around, but again if six months from now the offense has exploded - 30+ pts every game and all the weapons used consistently - then the FO looks very clever. On the other hand if the offense does not improve much there will be a lot of criticism, w/ or w/o significant injuries to the o line.

But here's what I've been wondering since yesterday... what does this strategy say about JC and specifically what Zorn and Co see in him? I wonder if adding so much potential firepower on offense means they think JC is ready to break out and dominate. If they did not believe in him might have they instead spread the picks out among our needs: d line, o line (maybe G and OT), CB and LB? It's just conjecture on my part but I'd like to think this peculiarity of picks says something about JC's progress and the kind of season Zorn and Co anticipates from him.