Overall Draft Grade for the Redskins

Just to be clear, my stance on the receivers is as follows

-At this moment Santana Moss is unquestionably our most valuable wide receiver. When healthy, he's a game changer. I think he's perfectly capable of being a #1 WR. HOWEVER, he needs a solid #2 on the other side of the field from him. FURTHERMORE, he has not been able to stay consistently healthy.

-Randle El is a solid WR who is probably a bit in over his head trying to be a #2 WR. Particualarly when the #1 is Santana Moss

-I have the utmost respect for Caldwell, McCardell, and Thrash. Solid contributors who, for the most part, did their part. But two are gone. And the third probably needs to go soon. Plus we can't fall back on guys like that and the Jimmy Farris' of the world each time we have injuries to our wide receivers, which has happened plenty the last several years (Patten, Lloyd, ARE, Moss, Thrash all out for extended games)

-I'm sure Mix has plenty of potential. Let's see it

-Devin Thomas' upside is...unknown. I was stunned he fell to us.

-As is Malcolm Kelly's. Yet I think Kelly will have the more immediate impact. I think over the next several years, Moss and Thomas will be our star WRs. But they should be thanking Malcolm Kelly for making it easy for them. I was thrilled we got him when we got him.

-When I say no one to throw to, I mean if the starters are hurt.

-What I'd like to see this year. Moss 1, Kelly 2, ARE/Thomas 3 (and then we'll see about the rest)

-So I don't think my opinion has changed. I want to give Moss every opportunity to be the #1 WR. He's earned it. But he needs help and he needs to stay healthy.

The way some people talk here you'd think we didn't have Samuels, Kendall, Rabach, Thomas, and Jansen starting.

"But they're getting old, and can they stay healthy?" Fine, but it's not like ARE and Moss have found the fountain of youth or have shown a propensity to stay healthy.

The way some people talk you would think the line has gone to complete shit.

Yes they're on the wrong side of 30 but we caught some bad breaks (literally) last year with Jansen and Thomas. I doubt we'll see another season where 2 of the 5 starters go down.

And I keep seeing people say we didn't address the line. Does Rinehart not count? Is Heyer not a good find from last year?

I dont think so. In fact I think WR was one of the areas where the Skins were in decent shape. I think O & D Line were way bigger needs than WR.

I guess you didn't mind Moss and ARE combining for 4 TDs last year?

ExplainI know your goal is to equalize the debate, but I'm wondering if anything has happened to your perception of Moss and Randle El to lead you to the conclusion that neither can be relied on for anything this year. Beyond the injury risk, I mean.

I guess you didn't mind Moss and ARE combining for 4 TDs last year?I didn't because all the touchdowns went to Cooley, who just can't be covered in the red zone.

I know your goal is to equalize the debate, but I'm wondering if anything has happened to your perception of Moss and Randle El to lead you to the conclusion that neither can be relied on for anything this year. Beyond the injury risk, I mean.

My reception of Moss and Randle El?

Anyway, see post #161

Just to be clear, my stance on the receivers is as follows

-At this moment Santana Moss is unquestionably our most valuable wide receiver. When healthy, he's a game changer. I think he's perfectly capable of being a #1 WR. HOWEVER, he needs a solid #2 on the other side of the field from him. FURTHERMORE, he has not been able to stay consistently healthy.

-Randle El is a solid WR who is probably a bit in over his head trying to be a #2 WR. Particualarly when the #1 is Santana Moss

-I have the utmost respect for Caldwell, McCardell, and Thrash. Solid contributors who, for the most part, did their part. But two are gone. And the third probably needs to go soon. Plus we can't fall back on guys like that and the Jimmy Farris' of the world each time we have injuries to our wide receivers, which has happened plenty the last several years (Patten, Lloyd, ARE, Moss, Thrash all out for extended games)

-I'm sure Mix has plenty of potential. Let's see it

-Devin Thomas' upside is...unknown. I was stunned he fell to us.

-As is Malcolm Kelly's. Yet I think Kelly will have the more immediate impact. I think over the next several years, Moss and Thomas will be our star WRs. But they should be thanking Malcolm Kelly for making it easy for them. I was thrilled we got him when we got him.

-When I say no one to throw to, I mean if the starters are hurt.

-What I'd like to see this year. Moss 1, Kelly 2, ARE/Thomas 3 (and then we'll see about the rest)

-So I don't think my opinion has changed. I want to give Moss every opportunity to be the #1 WR. He's earned it. But he needs help and he needs to stay healthy.Alright, so maybe the "if you don't have anyone to throw" to clause doesn't apply to the Redskins, then?

Just clarifying/playing devil's advocate.

I would also like to see Kelly and Moss start, but early on this year, it seems to be more likely to be Randle El and Moss.

Sorry I'll spell out my position more clearly from the beginning for you next time

Ten biggest winners
1. Jason Campbell, quarterback, Washington -- He implored management to deliver big receivers in the draft, and it responded with tight end Fred Davis and Oklahoma's Malcolm Kelly. Nice. Better yet, the Redskins added Michigan State's Devin Thomas, who might be the best receiver out there.

National Football League - CBSSports.com (http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/10802075)

I can't say I'd ever heard Campbell make this request. But he definitely emerged a winner.

I didn't because all the touchdowns went to Cooley, who just can't be covered in the red zone.

That still doesn't change the overall ineffectiveness of Moss and ARE when it comes to the red zone. It's great that we have Cooley but how much more dangerous could we be with multiple options in that area?