Overall Draft Grade for the Redskins

1 of 10. Never a statement of less sense has ever been posted on this site. Just...wow.

Until we see these guys on the field and see how well they pick up the offense and how their skills translate to the NFL I don't think we can really be certain about anything. Plus there are aspects that we can't measure that are x factors here. Mainly their work ethics both on the field and in the film room.

In another thread I think you equated Thomas to Eddie Kennison and Kelly to Keyshawn Johnson. Sounds to me like you've told us how good you think they can be.I said, that's really the upside of both those players, based on what they have done in college, combine, etc.

Best case scenario, that's what these guys are. Thats what the Redskins are drafting for. Those X factors that we can't quantify may prevent them from reaching their potential, and of course, they both might be busts. Who knows?

I hope we get what we were drafting for, I'm just skeptical.

Okay, I've had time to digest and excrete my thoughts on the draft: B-

I remember driving to a friends house when I heard Thomas' name being called. It didn't help that I had to hear it from Cowterd on ESPN radio. My emotional transition went from stunned-->anger-->resignation-->anger-->numbness in about 10 minutes. Follow that up with the (at the time) perplexing Fred Davis pick and then Kelly, whom I did not want, and I was in for a rough night of heavy, heavy drinking.

Looking at the picks and the value that they bring to our team, I think we did pretty good. I totally understand the need for two pass-catching TE's. If Moss or randle El go down then Cerrato will look like a genius by picking up two NFL-ready wideouts. I'm not excited about any of the late rounders except Durant Brooks. Tryon looks like a Smoot protege' which is okay, I guess. I don't trust anybody from small schools, so Reinhart will have to prove something to me.

Kelly started three years, came out as a junior.

The guys who start four years at a top college program and get picked high are the ones who lead the league in receiving every year. Torry Holt. Dwyane Bowe. Hines Ward. Javon Walker. Etc...

Kelly's issue was more of his speed. He's a Keyshawn Johnson type, it doesn't take a genius to see that. I mean, Keyshawn Johnson was very, very good for a long time. That's the best case scenario for Malcolm Kelly, who was productive multiple years in college.

Not every NFL wr has to have 4.3 4.4 speed to be productive. Wouldn't you be happy if he becomes as good as Keyshawn? I would.

Okay, I've had time to digest and excrete my thoughts on the draft: B-

I remember driving to a friends house when I heard Thomas' name being called. It didn't help that I had to hear it from Cowterd on ESPN radio. My emotional transition went from stunned-->anger-->resignation-->anger-->numbness in about 10 minutes. Follow that up with the (at the time) perplexing Fred Davis pick and then Kelly, whom I did not want, and I was in for a rough night of heavy, heavy drinking.

Looking at the picks and the value that they bring to our team, I think we did pretty good. I totally understand the need for two pass-catching TE's. If Moss or randle El go down then Cerrato will look like a genius by picking up two NFL-ready wideouts. I'm not excited about any of the late rounders except Durant Brooks. Tryon looks like a Smoot protege' which is okay, I guess. I don't trust anybody from small schools, so Reinhart will have to prove something to me.

LOL! You don't trust anyone from small schools?? If I went down the list of small school players that went on the become great NFL players we'd be here all day. But I'll give you one that's going into Canton this Aug. Darrell Green!

F minus minus. I will elaborate on why grim4coach says vinnie and danny are retarded:

1) We took two identical WR's. Kelly is slow as molasses...4.78 40? DE's had better times.
2) We have a Pro Bowl TE. There's another roster spot that will go unused.
3) Rinehart & Tryon were both graded by most boards as seventh-round picks
4) We drafted a PUNTER??? Unbelievable. THERE IS NO WAY THIS GUY MAKES THE ROSTER. LET ME REPEAT: THERE IS NO WAY THIS GUY MAKES THE ROSTER.
5) Colt Brennan? Can't read a Defense and has a weak arm. Kinda reminds me of Danny Wureful. GREAT pick vinnie. WONT MAKE THE ROSTER. Oh yea...just had HIP SURGERY...prolly be on IR all year anyway.
6) The last two were at the end of round seven...they are practically FAs.

So one draft, ten picks...maybe one of these guys make the roster, Maybe.

F'n retarded.

Do you know anything about football? Kelly was slow on his 40 time with no pads on. Big deal. When his pads were on during the games he seemed to get open quite often against top college players. The combine and pro days don't mean a damn thing cause they're not in pads.

And Thomas is not identical to Kelly at all. They're two different types of WR's. Thomas is more of a game breaker and Kelly is a possesion guy. Get your facts straight.

<<One of the 10 picks will make the roster? C'mon bro you're the one looking like the retard here.>>

I'll be back in September when the roster's released...and we'll see who's laughing then. Buh Bye Vinnie. Your fate has been sealed.

<<One of the 10 picks will make the roster? C'mon bro you're the one looking like the retard here.>>

I'll be back in September when the roster's released...and we'll see who's laughing then. Buh Bye Vinnie. Your fate has been sealed.

Great, looking forward to it.

<<And Thomas is not identical to Kelly at all. They're two different types of WR's. Thomas is more of a game breaker and Kelly is a possesion guy. Get your facts straight.>>

All I know is this: They will not both make the team. Kelly is too slow without pads, too slow with. Enjoy your koolaid. Vinnie's tour as GM is effectively over.

I dont think so. In fact I think WR was one of the areas where the Skins were in decent shape. I think O & D Line were way bigger needs than WR.

How can you say this?? I had a problem taking two guys early and I agree that we need to address the lines. But there is no denying that we need to upgrade at wr. What has Santana done since 05? What has ARE ever done??