The official Jason Taylor discussion thread (mega-merge)

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smoot27
05-21-2008, 10:33 PM
I know we had a Taylor of being on block but that was last month.In a up to date matter the HC/Parcell doesn't like Taylor for some reason.So if they don't have a partner they would need to release Taylor to get more cap space for rookie signing if no one finds him interested in a trade.

MIAMI (AP) — The feud between Jason Taylor and Bill Parcells intensified Wednesday, making it likely the six-time Pro Bowl defensive end has played his last game for the Miami Dolphins.

Coach Tony Sparano said Taylor isn't expected to take part in any team activities through training camp. The revelation came less than 24 hours after Taylor finished second to Kristi Yamaguchi in the finals of ``Dancing With the Stars'' in Los Angeles.

For weeks the new Dolphins regime, led by Parcells, has fumed while Taylor spent his offseason focused on his budding Hollywood career rather than back in South Florida working out with teammates.

General - Ties between Dolphins, Jason Taylor all but severed (http://www.comcast.net/articles/sports-general/20080521/Dolphins-Taylor/)

GTripp0012
05-21-2008, 10:38 PM
He's more of an elder statesman for the team than a key cog of their defense at this point. This is probably going to kill his playing time, and I don't blame the Dolphins. You've got a bunch of great young defensive players. Play Jason Taylor as a third down rusher only. You'll be better for it.

LMsexyAO
05-21-2008, 10:48 PM
I don't think it's any worse than what Strahan did last year to the Giants so I wouldn't get too worked up about it. If they do let him go I think it's a huge step in the wrong direction seeing as how he's the best player on that team at this point and very popular with the fans.

freddyg12
05-22-2008, 08:02 AM
I think at best Jason Taylor is worth a third rounder. I would give up a fourth for him right now. I doubt this will happen because the Redskins love Phillip Daniels. Much to my chagrin, the Redskins have extended Daniels contract, for another three years.

you sure about that? don't recall hime even being mentioned as a restructure this year

MTK
05-22-2008, 08:52 AM
Daniels is signed through 2010 but he wouldn't be that much of a hit to part ways with.

Paintrain
05-22-2008, 05:23 PM
From the Redskins Blog in the Washington Times
The Washington Times, America's Newspaper (http://video1.washingtontimes.com/redskins/)

Don't be stunned if Dolphins ace defensive end Jason Taylor, on the outs with the new regime in Miami, winds up with the Redskins. Taylor will be 34 in September, but he had 11 sacks last season. His 46 sacks the past four years lead the league.


Taylor is still very much in shape as he showed on "Dancing With The Stars." He has played his entire 11-year career in Miami, but the Dolphins haven't made the playoffs since 2002 and Bill Parcells and Co. are clearly rebuilding a team that was the NFL's worst last season. The Redskins, while not a powerhouse by any means, did reach the playoffs two of the past three years.


What's more, Taylor's agent is Gary Wichard, who is very tight with Redskins front office boss Vinny Cerrato. A Redskins source said that acquiring Taylor to boost the laggard pass rush wasn't out of the question but that there have been no talks so far either internally or with the Dolphins.


Taylor has two years left on his contract, which is worth $16.5 million. Miami could absorb the cap hit incurred by trading Taylor and Redskins owner Dan Snyder's trademark has been to shower newly-acquired players with bonuses.

JankySpanky80
05-22-2008, 05:45 PM
I think Taylor fits an area of need. If we could get 2 or 3 years out of him then next year we could draft a DE(highly unlikely but you never know). I think he is a huge upgrade right now. He would make the rest of the line better.

prinzeofmoval
05-22-2008, 09:17 PM
i like Taylor always have always will. He's a class act in a league full of idiots who don't get it. As long as it doesn't cost too much i would look into picking him up. He is one of the better pass rushers in this tenure. The question does remain can he stay healthy? Thats the key but you don't lose anything picking this guy up.

skinsnut
05-22-2008, 09:47 PM
i like Taylor always have always will. He's a class act in a league full of idiots who don't get it. As long as it doesn't cost too much i would look into picking him up. He is one of the better pass rushers in this tenure. The question does remain can he stay healthy? Thats the key but you don't lose anything picking this guy up.

I dont think health is an issue with him...he is in incredible shape...that dancing thing makes you lean however...I wouldn't be suprised if he lost 15 lbs neccessary to take on OT's

However, his speed and flexibility is potentially very good right now.
He would be an ideal situational pass rusher for 3 years....8 mil a year for that?
I dont think so...that is probably why Miami wants out.
If we can restructure to bring the average down to 5 mil a year...for 3-4 years, I say do it.

MTK
05-22-2008, 11:00 PM
From JLC (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/05/dancing_with_reality.html):

As those of you who check in regularly already know, the Redskins rejected the Dolphins quickly and decisively when Miami called shopping DE Jason Taylor before the draft. He's the kind of player defensive coordinator Greg Blache has avoided - an aging big-name who has one eye (if not both eyes) on Hollywood and his next incarnation as The Rock/Brian Bosworth in front of the cameras. Based on everything I have heard from both inside and outside the organization this is not in the cards.

Yes, the Skins have a need an end, but unless the Dolphins decide to give the guy away, then it's no. And, according to league sources, the Fins have already denied an overture for a fourth round pick for Taylor from one NFL team and may in fact holdout for at least a pick in the first three rounds. Again, the Skins are not and have not been players here, and at that price it's a no-go.

The Redskins have already passed on a bevy of linemen in free agency and on the trade market, and, again, there are reservations among many in the organization about how focused and dedicated Taylor is to football given his turn as a ballroom dancer and his obvious flirtation with the lure of La-La Land. Taylor's overt rejection of reporting for Miami's mini camp and training camp runs counter to everything Blache stands for.

Washington has preached building through the draft above all else - that offer of two first round picks for Chad Johnson not withstanding - and by dealing a pick in the first three rounds you are trading an asset that should translate into a longtime starter for the right to rent a player like Taylor for a year or two. The Redskins have had no recent discussions with the Dolphins since rejecting Miami's initial approach about Taylor, sources said, and he is not someone they are planning to pursue.

As one NFL executive put it:

"Blache is not a guy who is infatuated with stats and sacks. There's a lot of other things you need to be able to do to play for him, and at this stage of his career can Jason Taylor give you those things for 65-70 snaps a game for 16 games? No, he can't, and he's a guy making $8 million a year.

"That's a team that says now that they are building through the draft and you have to take them at their word there, and after over-spending for so long that now they may be taking a different approach. You can't just build a team one way; there has to be a balance between the pro side and the college side and you can't be balanced if you're always giving away first-day picks. In the first three rounds, you've got to think of those guys as starters. I can't see too many teams offering those picks for Taylor. If I'm the Redskins I'm not making a move for the guy."

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