celts32
04-24-2008, 04:32 PM
I'm lost.....CJ had better production then both of those....have you looked at NFL.COM's 2007 WR ranking list? CJ came in #3. The two WR in front of him were Reggie Wayne and Randy Moss. Fitz came in #4 and Edwards cam in #7. So I guess production is out you must be talking about youth.
We won't get the #1 WR. He will probably start on a team who needs a WR. We may get lucky enough to get the #3-#4 on the list. I doubt the WR at 3 or 4 will start immediatly. Unless he is so much better then Moss, Randel El, Thrash. He will have so much to learn on this team from the plays to the blocking schemes to the NFL speed. Something CJ already knows and only has to learn the play calls.
Yes, I am talking about youth. Two number one picks is the ultimate price to pay in an NFL trade. While the WR's you mentioned are great they are also too old to pay two #1 picks for them. I mentioned Fitz and Edwards because IMO they have a combination of YOUTH and production that would be worth multiple #1 picks.
celts32
04-24-2008, 04:34 PM
I'm starting to swing towards it being too steep a price, but there is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY for you to say that "the conditions that will turn this into a #1 pick next year are very attainable for him" because no one knows what those conditions are except for the Redskins and Bengals. I sure haven't heard details. If you know something let us know.
ESPN reported that it was based on his # of catches next season...it was something like 65 catches would turn it into a #2 pick and 95 catches would make it a #1 pick.
Skinny Tee
04-24-2008, 04:40 PM
Thanks. That is what I was trying to say. We've been making trades and spending wildly in free agency for too long with very little in the way of championship-like results. I think two VERY GOOD drafts will get us to a point where we can acquire that big superstar as the last piece.
Ain't that the truth.
I'd even like three whole drafts in which we have all our picks and use them on emerging talent, it's not like we can't sign UFA's also. After that we can take all the risks we want in the way of slinging draft picks around for big name veterans. We're just not at a point we can assume the risk that dominant teams have in the NFL.
ESPN reported that it was based on his # of catches next season...it was something like 65 catches would turn it into a #2 pick and 95 catches would make it a #1 pick.
I haven't heard that.
There were team based triggers that would need to be met too though.
over the mountain
04-24-2008, 04:45 PM
Ain't that the truth.
I'd even like three whole drafts in which we have all our picks and use them on emerging talent, it's not like we can't sign UFA's also. After that we can take all the risks we want in the way of slinging draft picks around for big name veterans. We're just not at a point we can assume the risk that dominant teams have in the NFL.
in 3 years our Oline will officially be old and those guys are our cornerstone so if you want to wait 3 years you'd better have a plan to replace most of the Oline aswell. you dont find a samuels, thomas, rabach, jansen group whose played together this long too often. we are blessed to have them.
I understand your thinking but I still think you have to find a balance between the draft, free agency, and trades.
Is it too crazy to think that maybe the Skins are already close to being a contender in the NFC? I mean it's not like we're coming off a miserable season.
But, is it really smart for us to tie $21 million at one position when we can sign multiple players at different positions?
SmootSmack
04-24-2008, 07:48 PM
ESPN reported that it was based on his # of catches next season...it was something like 65 catches would turn it into a #2 pick and 95 catches would make it a #1 pick.
Who said that? That's not what I heard. They were record-setting numbers for CJ. Plus the team had to meet certain goals too.
But you could be right. I've heard so many different things on this subject, I don't know what to believe really.
End of the day (or I should say weekend), I don't think he's a Redskin.
EARTHQUAKE2689
04-24-2008, 07:49 PM
Who said that? That's not what I heard. They were record-setting numbers for CJ. Plus the team had to meet certain goals too.
But you could be right. I've heard so many different things on this subject, I don't know what to believe really.
End of the day (or I should say weekend), I don't think he's a Redskin.
Neither do I, I don't think Cincy will stop its stubborness
SeanTaylor21
04-24-2008, 07:50 PM
Who said that? That's not what I heard. They were record-setting numbers for CJ. Plus the team had to meet certain goals too.
But you could be right. I've heard so many different things on this subject, I don't know what to believe really.
End of the day (or I should say weekend), I don't think he's a Redskin.
But, do you think Roy Williams (WR) will be a Redskin at the end of the weekend.
Dirtbag59
04-24-2008, 08:01 PM
But, do you think Roy Williams (WR) will be a Redskin at the end of the weekend.
Possibly but I doubt it. The Lions aren't really ready to let him go and on top of that he dosen't think he's a good fit for the WCO.