Offer made on Chad (1st rd '08, conditional 3rd rd '09)

Here's something no one has considered. If we want to give up two draft picks so badly for an established player, why aren't we going after Kansas City DE Jared Allen? He just turned 26, led the league in sacks with 15.5 last season and would fill a bigger need immediately on the Redskins. Oh, that's right. Chad Johnson jerseys probably would sell much better than Jared Allen ones.

Here's something no one has considered. If we want to give up two draft picks so badly for an established player, why aren't we going after Kansas City DE Jared Allen? He just turned 26, led the league in sacks with 15.5 last season and would fill a bigger need immediately on the Redskins. Oh, that's right. Chad Johnson jerseys probably would sell much better than Jared Allen ones.

Because this isn't a college spring game. This is the NFL, you beat your opponents by scoring more points than them. Sacks do not equal points, (safety excluded) touchdowns do.

Because this isn't a college spring game. This is the NFL, you beat your opponents by scoring more points than them. Sacks do not equal points, (safety excluded) touchdowns do.
But a dominant D-Line can shut down an opponent's offense so you don't have to score as many points to win. (See NYG Superbowl win)

But a dominant D-Line can shut down an opponent's offense so you don't have to score as many points to win. (See NYG Superbowl win)


I understand your argument, however we already have a solid Defense that has been limiting other team's offense. We need to generate more points ourselves. If we would have scored 3-7 more points a game, we may have only lost one game last season.

I understand your argument, however we already have a solid Defense that has been limiting other team's offense. We need to generate more points ourselves. If we would have scored 3-7 more points a game, we may have only lost one game last season.

Do you mean that same solid defense that has only one bonafide pass-rusher, question marks in the secondary due to age (Springs) and injury (Rogers), and lost winnable games against Dallas, the Giants, Philly and Buffalo because it couldn't make stops?

Here's something no one has considered. If we want to give up two draft picks so badly for an established player, why aren't we going after Kansas City DE Jared Allen? He just turned 26, led the league in sacks with 15.5 last season and would fill a bigger need immediately on the Redskins. Oh, that's right. Chad Johnson jerseys probably would sell much better than Jared Allen ones.

Your jersey 'logic' is getting a little tired. Jared Allen is a very good player, but the Vikings are also willing to give up a 1st for him and they pick four spots ahead of us. Also, despite how much you clearly dislike Chad Johnson, he has never been suspended for multiple DUI's ... if you're so concerned with character why would you advocate picking up a guy who has no problem putting other people's lives at risk or (if you want to take a crass strictly football perspective) is one strike away from getting the Goddell smackdown?

Do you mean that same solid defense that has only one bonafide pass-rusher and lost winnable games against Dallas, the Giants, Philly and Buffalo because it couldn't make stops?
On the flip side of that coin we only needed 3 to 7 more points to beat each of those teams.

Our offense averaged only 20.9 PPG our D only allowed 19.4 PPG and alot of those points you cannot blame on the Defense. Our offense was not staying on the field long enough and often turned the ball over. That gave opponents favorable field position.

If we are still losing close games in a year and our Offense is putting up 24 PPG or more, then I will say that we need to upgrade the D.

Your jersey 'logic' is getting a little tired. Jared Allen is a very good player, but the Vikings are also willing to give up a 1st for him and they pick four spots ahead of us. Also, despite how much you clearly dislike Chad Johnson, he has never been suspended for multiple DUI's ... if you're so concerned with character why would you advocate picking up a guy who has no problem putting other people's lives at risk or (if you want to take a crass strictly football perspective) is one strike away from getting the Goddell smackdown?

The Vikings made it a point to do their homework and Allen has been very contrite about how he's made mistakes and is owning up to them. Chad is constantly talking about me, me, me, I want to get paid. At least Allen will fill a bigger need immediately. We're not a player away from a Super Bowl and Chad Johnson by himself isn't going to get us there.

Bottom line. With a new head coach on board, we need to build a corps of "young players" instead of trading away picks for players in their '30s who may or may not help us.

On the flip side of that coin we only needed 3 to 7 more points to beat each of those teams.

Our offense averaged only 20.9 PPG our D only allowed 19.4 PPG and alot of those points you cannot blame on the Defense. Our offense was not staying on the field long enough and often turned the ball over. That gave opponents favorable field position.

If we are still losing close games in a year and our Offense is putting up 24 PPG or more, then I will say that we need to upgrade the D.

Our offense wasn't staying on the field long enough because our aging, injury-prone offensive line with little in the way of proven back-ups wasn't getting the job done. We could have, both, Chad Johnson and Anquan Bolden at the wide out positions. It won't matter if the line can't open holes for Portis an Betts consistently, or keep Campbell upright long enough to get the ball to Moss and Company. Yes, the offense needs upgrades, but it has to start with the line.

On the flip side of that coin we only needed 3 to 7 more points to beat each of those teams.

Our offense averaged only 20.9 PPG our D only allowed 19.4 PPG and alot of those points you cannot blame on the Defense. Our offense was not staying on the field long enough and often turned the ball over. That gave opponents favorable field position.

If we are still losing close games in a year and our Offense is putting up 24 PPG or more, then I will say that we need to upgrade the D.
I understand the stats you are quoting. But Campbell's development and Zorn's offense will be the determining factor in improved offensive production. CJ will not lift the average scoring output by himself. If Campbell doesn't develop, or we have injury issues on an aging OL this deal is basically worthless.

Our defense, while playing well in the latter part of the year after they abandoned the Cover 2, has some glaring issues; a young strong-side DE is needed, DT who can collapse the pocket, LB depth, young shut-down corner, Safety depth.

CJ is a talented WR, one of the better ones in the NFL, but we have so many issues to address and the offensive development doesn't hinge on a star WR right now. It hinges on Zorn, Campbell, a healthy OL and healthy Portis. If one of those components has a problem it basically negates any benefit CJ would bring. Then we've given up a 1st this year and 3rd in 2009 for a 31 yr. old WR whose production could be in decline and whose attitude may have created problems with team chemistry. Risk & price too high, reward too low.