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SmootSmack
04-15-2008, 11:54 AM
saden, are you upset that there is a war going on or that the war is happening in Iraq? Because I know a lot of people say "bring our troops home" and then many of those same people say "why aren't we dedicating 100% of our resources to fighting in Afghanistan/Pakistan where the real enemy is." So do they want to bring the troops home, or just move them somewhere else?

dmek25
04-15-2008, 03:09 PM
I believe that the correct sentiment is that they wanted us there and now they want us gone. How quickly desires change once the job is done. In other words we have accomplished what they wanted us to. Sadam is dead and his regime is over. Only their own civil war can repair the unity and forge their own nation. We are nothing less than arrogant than to believe that we can do it for them.
great post. and i agree witrh most of it

saden1
04-15-2008, 04:06 PM
saden, are you upset that there is a war going on or that the war is happening in Iraq? Because I know a lot of people say "bring our troops home" and then many of those same people say "why aren't we dedicating 100% of our resources to fighting in Afghanistan/Pakistan where the real enemy is." So do they want to bring the troops home, or just move them somewhere else?

I am upset about a lot of things, our foreign policy, the fact that we have a large presence in so many places, that our defense budget is enormous and that the defense supplemental bill is disgustingly huge, that we are in Iraq even though we can't "fix" it, that we are not in a position to chastise China for their disregard for human right.

I want most of the troops back home (including those in Germany, Japan, Korea, etc) and for us to go after terrorist wherever they might be (Afghanistan) intelligently. I want the draft back so chickenhawks get called up to serve.

12thMan
04-15-2008, 04:13 PM
I am upset about a lot of things, our foreign policy, the fact that we have a large presence in so many places, that our defense budget is enormous and that the defense supplemental bill is disgustingly huge, that we are in Iraq even though we can't "fix" it, that we are not in a position to chastise China for their disregard for human right.

I want most of the troops back home (including those in Germany, Japan, Korea, etc) and for us to go after terrorist wherever they might be (Afghanistan) intelligently. I want the draft back so chickenhawks get called up to serve.

yeah, yeah, yeah...but are you bitter?

saden1
04-15-2008, 04:20 PM
yeah, yeah, yeah...but are you bitter?

Without question...my tax money is being wasted without my consent!

12thMan
04-15-2008, 04:25 PM
Without question...my tax money is being wasted without my consent!

But on the flip side, a lot of your tax money, perhaps most of it, is being put to good use?

saden1
04-15-2008, 04:35 PM
But on the flip side, a lot of your tax money, perhaps most of it, is being put to good use?

That might be true, but I figure all of it should be put to good use.

firstdown
04-15-2008, 04:42 PM
haven't you heard any of the " mistakes" of McCain speaking on behalf of Iran?
No thats why I asked.

saden1
04-15-2008, 05:35 PM
Oh and I'm bitter about this: https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2187rank.html

SmootSmack
04-15-2008, 06:31 PM
I am upset about a lot of things, our foreign policy, the fact that we have a large presence in so many places, that our defense budget is enormous and that the defense supplemental bill is disgustingly huge, that we are in Iraq even though we can't "fix" it, that we are not in a position to chastise China for their disregard for human right.

I want most of the troops back home (including those in Germany, Japan, Korea, etc) and for us to go after terrorist wherever they might be (Afghanistan) intelligently. I want the draft back so chickenhawks get called up to serve.

But more than anything you're upset that you went to the playoff game against the Seahawks, and we lost. Aren't you?

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