Gamespot's total Madden vs. ESPN

pretty comprehensive, category by category

http://www.gamespot.com/features/6104789/index.html

any chance you could cut and paste the article, it's blocked here at work.

If it's too long don't worry about it, I'll check it out when I get home

its long and with video for each section.

cool, no problem

I guess I'm a nerd as those guys said, because the franchise stuff is really what makes the game for me.

I might rent 2K5 at some point to give it a try.

yeah tons of people are into that numbers stuff, playing Dan Snyder. i can only play the real, unmodified 'Skins (and emulate their style of play/playbook), else i think i give'em bad luck. the Weekly Prep thing looks super detailed (would be cool to make Rock gain a couple steps etc.), but it all seems like a nightmare to me.

Gamespot rated ESPN higher (.2) than Madden this year, dunno about last year. IGN always sticks with Madden.

I thought it was a fair review. In the long run, we are all gonna benefit from two good games.