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JDub21 04-11-2008, 02:42 AM What do you guys think of him?
can he be a full-time starter in the NFL?
he played well down the stretch and seemed to fit in well in the locker room
JDub21 04-11-2008, 02:42 AM [Personal opinion]: love the guy. hope he remains as the starter and develops
GridIron26 04-11-2008, 05:04 AM [Personal opinion]: love the guy. hope he remains as the starter and develops
Exactly what I'm feeling..
Skinny Tee 04-11-2008, 07:08 AM Is anybody averse to addressing FS in the draft this year? I have a hard time deciding because it would essentially be trying to replace someone who was very special to the team too quickly.
...I don't want to lose or taint the memory but I would want to improve if there are deficienies there, tough call.
SmootSmack 04-11-2008, 07:27 AM Well I think that Landry is our FS isn't he? I just hope that we don't draft Kenny Phillips. For one thing, it's sort of creepy. And for another I think he's an overrated U player (much like I think Calais Campbell is starting to become really undderrated)
Anyhow, as for Doughty. I think he can definitely be a full-time starter in the NFL. But for him to succeed he needs to be one of those types that has all the right pieces around him to help (at least for now). In other words, if Doughty struggled on the field I think Landry could still play at a superior level and pick up Doughty's slack. But if the reverse were happening, I think it would have a negative effect (affect?) on Doughty.
I'm definitely rooting for him though. He's been through a lot with his own kid and the moment that probably got me most choked up last season was when some moron asked him if the guys were crying in the locker room (after finding out ST had been shot, though still live) and he said "Of course" then choked up and added "it's real."
CPAlltheWay012 04-11-2008, 07:36 AM I look at it as this: What happens if Laron Landry gets injured?
And it's exactly the reason I think we should draft Kenny Philips. Reed Doughty served as a solid and proven backup in the NFL and played well on special teams, where he should continue to do so. If injury were to strike one of our safties, he's there to fill the void and hopefully do a solid job. If we don't have someone like Kenny Philips and Laron gets injured.. what happens? We have a very weak deep secondary.
I know this is based on alot of "Ifs" but no one ever thought that Sean Taylor would go down and it happened. I think we should take the precautions to keep our secondary strong so we don't get torched like 2006.
Check out this video of him: NFL Video Galleries (http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d807b1ebf)
Skinny Tee 04-11-2008, 07:42 AM Well I think that Landry is our FS isn't he? I just hope that we don't draft Kenny Phillips. For one thing, it's sort of creepy. And for another I think he's an overrated U player (much like I think Calais Campbell is starting to become really undderrated)
Anyhow, as for Doughty. I think he can definitely be a full-time starter in the NFL. But for him to succeed he needs to be one of those types that has all the right pieces around him to help (at least for now). In other words, if Doughty struggled on the field I think Landry could still play at a superior level and pick up Doughty's slack. But if the reverse were happening, I think it would have a negative effect (affect?) on Doughty.
I'm definitely rooting for him though. He's been through a lot with his own kid and the moment that probably got me most choked up last season was when some moron asked him if the guys were crying in the locker room (after finding out ST had been shot, though still live) and he said "Of course" then choked up and added "it's real."
We moved Landy to FS after the tradegy so I thought he was going to go back to his orginial position after the season. Maybe you're right, but I thought they brought Landry to the team as a SS because he plays well close to the LOS.
I guess if we go into the season with Doughty starting he will be the SS, he better suits that position.
If Phillips fell to us in the second round that would be creepy because we might be forced to select him.
SmootSmack 04-11-2008, 07:45 AM I look at it as this: What happens if Laron Landry gets injured?
And it's exactly the reason I think we should draft Kenny Philips. Reed Doughty served as a solid and proven backup in the NFL and played well on special teams, where he should continue to do so. If injury were to strike one of our safties, he's there to fill the void and hopefully do a solid job. If we don't have someone like Kenny Philips and Laron gets injured.. what happens? We have a very weak deep secondary.
I know this is based on alot of "Ifs" but no one ever thought that Sean Taylor would go down and it happened. I think we should take the precautions to keep our secondary strong so we don't get torched like 2006.
Check out this video of him: NFL Video Galleries (http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d807b1ebf)
Ok, but what if we don't draft Talib and Springs gets injured, or we don't draft Otah and Jansen gets injured, or we don't draft Albert and Thomas gets injured, or we don't draft Merling and Carter gets injured, or we don't draft Balmer and Montgomery gets injured...and so on?
Skinny Tee 04-11-2008, 07:55 AM Ok, but what if we don't draft Talib and Springs gets injured, or we don't draft Otah and Jansen gets injured, or we don't draft Albert and Thomas gets injured, or we don't draft Merling and Carter gets injured, or we don't draft Balmer and Montgomery gets injured...and so on?
The answer to that question is what has us in this precarious position. Making sure that you use your alotted selections on premier young talent coming out of the college ranks.
That is something we haven't been doing the past few years and are now suffering as a result. There is too much luck involved when your competitive season relies on none of our full time starters being lost for the year.
Building in the draft through multiple years is the only way we can eliminate the luck factor and be competitive year in and year out.
Schneed10 04-11-2008, 09:28 AM I see Reed Doughty as a Ryan Clark clone. Not terribly fast, not terribly big, but takes good angles to the ball, is a very good fundamental tackler, and is smart enough in coverage not to get burned.
He will not generate turnovers, but he's a very solid NFL starter when paired with a premeir talent like Landry.
I think Doughty's presence allows us to draft for other needs first, and worry about acquiring depth at safety instead of spending a higher pick on a starter.
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