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SmootSmack 04-08-2008, 04:00 PM The way we hear it, Manningham, despite handling the situation poorly at the Combine with little guidance, is viewed as less of a character risk than Talib, who has been removed from more draft boards than Manningham, based on conversations PFW has had with nine NFL teams.
NFL Draft - NFL draft preview and analysis from Pro Football Weekly (http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFLDraft/Draft+Extras/2008/wwhi040808.htm)
Talib definitely sounds risky.
“There is no way I’d touch (Talib),” one team told PFW. “He’s gotten into a lot of trouble, and he still does not get it.”
“He’s got a laundry list of issues,” another team executive said of Talib's off-the-field behavior. “He’s not a one-time offender. Give a guy like him money, and it never gets better. It only gets worse.”
TheMalcolmConnection 04-08-2008, 04:09 PM Drop to fourth maybe?
I'd be OK with that.
EARTHQUAKE2689 04-08-2008, 04:09 PM one time weed thing isnt that bad. Luis Castillio admitted using steriods and he was a 1st round pick
DGreene28 04-08-2008, 04:13 PM Fred Smoot had some of the same questions when he came out...But Talib was abused by Jordy Nelson and Maurice Purify like he stole something the last few years. I was staying away from him before this came out
Slingin Sammy 33 04-08-2008, 04:21 PM This may be good news for us. Didn't Smoot fall into the 2nd round because of weed issues. He turned out to be a solid player for a 2nd rounder. If Talib falls into the 2nd or 3rd round, he's a steal.
Check out his story, are there any issues in 2007-2008, if not roll the dice with a 2nd rounder or lower, no 1st though.
SmootSmack 04-08-2008, 04:41 PM Warren Sapp, Amobi Okoye, and Calvin Johnson all faced similar issues. The concern with Talib seems to be the recurrence and more importantly his blatant disregard.
freddyg12 04-08-2008, 04:56 PM Warren Sapp, Amobi Okoye, and Calvin Johnson all faced similar issues. The concern with Talib seems to be the recurrence and more importantly his blatant disregard.
Sapp is the name that always hits me when this stuff comes out at draft time. Sapp fell to 12th & we bypassed him w/the 3rd pick that year for who? Michael Westbrook
I know it's futile to do the coulda, shoulda w/the draft, but that was a draft that epitomized norvelle's term here. We desparately needed help at most all positions on defense, yet he really wanted the big wideout that would be the next M. Irvin.
I digress, I am surprised to hear about Talib. all I'd heard before was that he was a sharp & good guy.
GMScud 04-08-2008, 04:57 PM Fred Smoot had some of the same questions when he came out...But Talib was abused by Jordy Nelson and Maurice Purify like he stole something the last few years. I was staying away from him before this came out
I'm so tired of the Jordy Nelson slurping. Talib got beaten on one play by Nelson, and that one stinkin play is everyone's reference for why we shouldn't draft him.
But repeatedly failing drug tests and not caring about it something to be concerned with. It'll be fun to see Talib's status in Kiper's newest mock draft. He had him jump from #21 to #7 last week. Oops Mel.
Schneed10 04-08-2008, 05:04 PM If you smoke pot on a regular basis or even a semi-regular basis, in my opinion, you're a bad-character guy and have no place on the team (I'll take the Joe Gibbs school of thought anyday). Only exception would be if you're an absolutely unbelievable talent like a Calvin Johnson.
If you admit to smoking pot, but indicate that it's a one-time thing, I'm still going to red-flag you. I wouldn't rule out drafting you, but I'd insist on doing a lot more homework on you. I'd be talking with your high school coaches, the parents of your high school friends, your college coaches, your parents, everybody.
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