McCain: pathetic, phony hypocrite

I don't have to check my opinions at the door just because I am a mod. Also, what did I do that was so offensive?

Oppose him.

I guess that you weigh what is discussed in the article differently than I do, Sheriff. To you, it is par for the course for a politician. For me, it belies the very image of being a "principled politician" that many have had of him.

I think it is very important to know exactly what we are getting when we vote for a president. When Bush was running for example, he made many lies about himself, including how he was "not interested in nation building."

I just got this in my email box tonight about McCain:

10 things you should know about John McCain (but probably don't):

1. John McCain voted against establishing a national holiday in honor of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Now he says his position has "evolved," yet he's continued to oppose key civil rights laws.1


2. According to Bloomberg News, McCain is more hawkish than Bush on Iraq, Russia and China. Conservative columnist Pat Buchanan says McCain "will make Cheney look like Gandhi."2


3. His reputation is built on his opposition to torture, but McCain voted against a bill to ban waterboarding, and then applauded President Bush for vetoing that ban.3

4. McCain opposes a woman's right to choose. He said, "I do not support Roe versus Wade. It should be overturned."4


5. The Children's Defense Fund rated McCain as the worst senator in Congress for children. He voted against the children's health care bill last year, then defended Bush's veto of the bill.5


6. He's one of the richest people in a Senate filled with millionaires. The Associated Press reports he and his wife own at least eight homes! Yet McCain says the solution to the housing crisis is for people facing foreclosure to get a "second job" and skip their vacations.6

7. Many of McCain's fellow Republican senators say he's too reckless to be commander in chief. One Republican senator said: "The thought of his being president sends a cold chill down my spine. He's erratic. He's hotheaded. He loses his temper and he worries me."7


8. McCain talks a lot about taking on special interests, but his campaign manager and top advisers are actually lobbyists. The government watchdog group Public Citizen says McCain has 59 lobbyists raising money for his campaign, more than any of the other presidential candidates.8


9. McCain has sought closer ties to the extreme religious right in recent years. The pastor McCain calls his "spiritual guide," Rod Parsley, believes America's founding mission is to destroy Islam, which he calls a "false religion." McCain sought the political support of right-wing preacher John Hagee, who believes Hurricane Katrina was God's punishment for gay rights and called the Catholic Church "the Antichrist" and a "false cult."9


10. He positions himself as pro-environment, but he scored a 0—yes, zero—from the League of Conservation Voters last year.10



John McCain is not who the Washington press corps make him out to be.

-- From MoveOn.org
This is from moveon.org great source. Thats like using something from Rush Lim. about the Clinton's.

I have a question. Anyone can fire away.

Why is it that if a person is supporting they're candidate of choice, the other candidate is automatically evil, inept, and corrupt? Why aren't Republicans open to the possibility that a Democrat knows how to run the country and vice-versa.

We've had good and bad Presidents from both parties, haven't we? I just can't understand it.

I'm in no way suggesting that everyone suddenly turn into an Independent voter, but why is it that the 'other' guy has to be trashed all the time? I hate that.

New rule: Negative rep points to anyone who uses the lame excuse of moderators aren't supposed to have opinions.

New rule: Negative rep points to anyone who uses the lame excuse of moderators aren't supposed to have opinions.

I like that rule.

How about this one..negative points for anyone accusing another member of kissing up to a Mod because they agreed with him/her?

I like that rule.

How about this one..negative points for anyone accusing another member of kissing up to a Mod because they agreed with him/her?

I like it but...

Sounds like you might be kissing up to me. ;)

I have a question. Anyone can fire away.

Why is it that if a person is supporting they're candidate of choice, the other candidate is automatically evil, inept, and corrupt? Why aren't Republicans open to the possibility that a Democrat knows how to run the country and vice-versa.

We've had good and bad Presidents from both parties, haven't we? I just can't understand it.

I'm in no way suggesting that everyone suddenly turn into an Independent voter, but why is it that the 'other' guy has to be trashed all the time? I hate that.I vote Rep. most of the time and I do not find all dems to be evil, inept, or corrupt. Take Obama. I like him as a person from what I know but I could never vote for him because he is to far left. Now Hillary I think is an evil lady and would do what ever she could get away with to get more power. So for me it can go both ways just depends on the person themself.

I'm in no way suggesting that everyone suddenly turn into an Independent voter, but why is it that the 'other' guy has to be trashed all the time? I hate that.
I usually stay away from responding to Political threads because of this...that "your guy is the wrong guy" mentality. (I made the thread title as I did for Obama's bowling because I would have done the same title for Hillary or McCain (Replace Dem with Repub of course).)

I consider myself a moderate Republican, who votes on issues not down party lines. These days there isn't much difference between the 2 major parties in this country, which makes me wonder why there are such steadfast people who vote down the line. I also live in a state that is relatively conservative, except for 3 areas that make up a majority of the voters, so my vote while meaningful to me, doesn't mean a hill of beans when it comes down to it.

I'm still pretty undecided as far as who I like for President. I honestly think it's going to come down to the wire, no matter who the Democrats put up as their candidate. All 3 of the major candidates have their pluses and minuses, and only one of them will get to mold the country for the next 4 years. And as shown in the last several elections, this country is pretty split down the middle as to who should be in charge...which shows me again that the 2 parties are not really that different.

Last election, I found myself voting for the person I felt best represented their way of bolstering the economy and helping me out. Well, 4 years later, the dollar is even weaker, unemployment is on the rise, and we're in the midst of a recession. Whichever candidate can prove to me that they can help this country out will get my vote.

I usually stay away from responding to Political threads because of this...that "your guy is the wrong guy" mentality. (I made the thread title as I did for Obama's bowling because I would have done the same title for Hillary or McCain (Replace Dem with Repub of course).)

I consider myself a moderate Republican, who votes on issues not down party lines. These days there isn't much difference between the 2 major parties in this country, which makes me wonder why there are such steadfast people who vote down the line. I also live in a state that is relatively conservative, except for 3 areas that make up a majority of the voters, so my vote while meaningful to me, doesn't mean a hill of beans when it comes down to it.

I'm still pretty undecided as far as who I like for President. I honestly think it's going to come down to the wire, no matter who the Democrats put up as their candidate. All 3 of the major candidates have their pluses and minuses, and only one of them will get to mold the country for the next 4 years. And as shown in the last several elections, this country is pretty split down the middle as to who should be in charge...which shows me again that the 2 parties are not really that different.

Last election, I found myself voting for the person I felt best represented their way of bolstering the economy and helping me out. Well, 4 years later, the dollar is even weaker, unemployment is on the rise, and we're in the midst of a recession. Whichever candidate can prove to me that they can help this country out will get my vote.

I can totally respect and agree with what you're saying. It seems most people feel there aren't major differences between parties any longer, and as you've pointed out, Maryland and I would even say Virginia is trending Blue. Even during the primary elections, we've seen Republicans cross over and vice-versa. Definitely more so with the former though.

I think it will be close...and from I what I'm gathering from John McCain, we might actually get a somewhat "clean" election.

I can totally respect and agree with what you're saying. It seems most people feel there aren't major differences between parties any longer, and as you've pointed out, Maryland and I would even say Virginia is trending Blue. Even during the primary elections, we've seen Republicans cross over and vice-versa. Definitely more so with the former though.

I think it will be close...and from I what I'm gathering from John McCain, we might actually get a somewhat "clean" election.
What do you mean when you say " from what I'm gathering from John McCain, we might actually get a somewhat "clean" election.