onlydarksets
04-04-2008, 09:51 AM
That's a vapid post by JLC - there's not a single example in there of how Lloyd disrupted the locker room.
Look, I'm not saying Lloyd wasn't a bust - he obviously was. I just don't recall hearing anything about him in the past year, which contradicts the assertion that he was a cancer on the locker room.
I did find this, which points out some of his blow-ups when he was playing:
Brandon Lloyd: Truth or Fiction - D.C. Sports Bog (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2007/09/brandon_lloyd_truth_and_fictio.html)
Again, though, nothing last year. What do you think Henry would do if he were on the bench? I'm thinking 2-3 arrests.
I can't believe I am sort of defending Lloyd. I just wouldn't lump him in the same tier as a Moss/TO/Henry who can single-handedly put a team in the dirt.
Lloyd definitely had some attitude issues that caused him to be a disruption in the locker room.
Just look at what JLC said about him:
Would be remiss if I let some news regarding an old favorite in these parts pass any longer. The wide receiver, No. 85, found a new home (at least temporarily) while I was on vacation, and figured I'd post on that situation.
This guy cost the Redskins a 3rd and 4th draft pick and about $12 million total for two years of service, if you can call it that, with constant off field issues and scant production. Perhaps they could have found a way to reach out to him more and connect, but it never happened and he was a cancer.
Lloyd signed with the Bears a few weeks back, and this deal is eons away from the $10 million guaranteed the Skins lavished up the receiver (even with him signed for another season). This time Lloyd got no bonus whatsoever. No incentives. No escalators. Nada.
Lloyd received a veteran minimum benefit contract with nothing up front, not even a workout bonus. Yes, the contract includes a $40,000 workout bonus, sources said, but first Lloyd must participate in 85 percent of Chicago's off season workout program sessions to receive it, so he got nothing up front.
The Bears could but him at any point and owe him nothing. Should Lloyd make the team - something sources said the Bears are not necessarily counting on ("They know he's a malcontent, but he played for our coordinator in college and was recruited by him," said one NFL source who spoke with Bears people about the signing. "They look at it like he's drowning - he's not totally drowned yet - and (OC) Ron Turner wanted to throw him a lifeline, but who knows if he'll use it."). Should Lloyd make the team he could earn a maximum of $605,000.
My take on this guy has been long established, but, I gotta say, if he somehow matures a bit and maybe deals with some of his personality issues, I could actually see him having a decent year. Now, these are huge ifs, but if he gets on the field I think he can replace Berian as Chicago's downfield threat and makes plays in spurts.
He will have every motivation in the world and will be playing for his football life. Then, of course, he may take that $12 million from Dan Snyder, build a recording studio in his basement and focus more on fashion and hip hop than football and totally check out. Have a weird hunch he does enough for the Bears to get himself a decent contract a year from now ... then buyer beware to any team that actually empowers him again, cuz his troubles run deep.
Also kinda strange how both of the biggest of the 2005 offseason busts - Adam Archuleta and this guy - end up in Chicago on the cheap. Archuleta gave the Bears essentially nothing in 2007, and will be very interesting to see if Lloyd makes it this year. Chicago's off season workout plan begins in a few weeks, and I would assume he would report and at least get that $40,000 in his hands.
Okay, that's it for tonight. We'll do some breakdowns of every position on the roster next week and definitely check in tomorrow. Got my hands on some very, very interesting - and telling - figures on team spending and the cap that I think you'll want to check out. I found it somewhat mind blowing while culling the numbers from NFLPA and NFL Management Council sources.
Link: Update On An Old Friend - Redskins Insider (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/04/update_on_an_old_friend.html)
Look, I'm not saying Lloyd wasn't a bust - he obviously was. I just don't recall hearing anything about him in the past year, which contradicts the assertion that he was a cancer on the locker room.
I did find this, which points out some of his blow-ups when he was playing:
Brandon Lloyd: Truth or Fiction - D.C. Sports Bog (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2007/09/brandon_lloyd_truth_and_fictio.html)
Again, though, nothing last year. What do you think Henry would do if he were on the bench? I'm thinking 2-3 arrests.
I can't believe I am sort of defending Lloyd. I just wouldn't lump him in the same tier as a Moss/TO/Henry who can single-handedly put a team in the dirt.
Lloyd definitely had some attitude issues that caused him to be a disruption in the locker room.
Just look at what JLC said about him:
Would be remiss if I let some news regarding an old favorite in these parts pass any longer. The wide receiver, No. 85, found a new home (at least temporarily) while I was on vacation, and figured I'd post on that situation.
This guy cost the Redskins a 3rd and 4th draft pick and about $12 million total for two years of service, if you can call it that, with constant off field issues and scant production. Perhaps they could have found a way to reach out to him more and connect, but it never happened and he was a cancer.
Lloyd signed with the Bears a few weeks back, and this deal is eons away from the $10 million guaranteed the Skins lavished up the receiver (even with him signed for another season). This time Lloyd got no bonus whatsoever. No incentives. No escalators. Nada.
Lloyd received a veteran minimum benefit contract with nothing up front, not even a workout bonus. Yes, the contract includes a $40,000 workout bonus, sources said, but first Lloyd must participate in 85 percent of Chicago's off season workout program sessions to receive it, so he got nothing up front.
The Bears could but him at any point and owe him nothing. Should Lloyd make the team - something sources said the Bears are not necessarily counting on ("They know he's a malcontent, but he played for our coordinator in college and was recruited by him," said one NFL source who spoke with Bears people about the signing. "They look at it like he's drowning - he's not totally drowned yet - and (OC) Ron Turner wanted to throw him a lifeline, but who knows if he'll use it."). Should Lloyd make the team he could earn a maximum of $605,000.
My take on this guy has been long established, but, I gotta say, if he somehow matures a bit and maybe deals with some of his personality issues, I could actually see him having a decent year. Now, these are huge ifs, but if he gets on the field I think he can replace Berian as Chicago's downfield threat and makes plays in spurts.
He will have every motivation in the world and will be playing for his football life. Then, of course, he may take that $12 million from Dan Snyder, build a recording studio in his basement and focus more on fashion and hip hop than football and totally check out. Have a weird hunch he does enough for the Bears to get himself a decent contract a year from now ... then buyer beware to any team that actually empowers him again, cuz his troubles run deep.
Also kinda strange how both of the biggest of the 2005 offseason busts - Adam Archuleta and this guy - end up in Chicago on the cheap. Archuleta gave the Bears essentially nothing in 2007, and will be very interesting to see if Lloyd makes it this year. Chicago's off season workout plan begins in a few weeks, and I would assume he would report and at least get that $40,000 in his hands.
Okay, that's it for tonight. We'll do some breakdowns of every position on the roster next week and definitely check in tomorrow. Got my hands on some very, very interesting - and telling - figures on team spending and the cap that I think you'll want to check out. I found it somewhat mind blowing while culling the numbers from NFLPA and NFL Management Council sources.
Link: Update On An Old Friend - Redskins Insider (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/04/update_on_an_old_friend.html)