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comparing chAD JOHNSON - to brandon lloyd? ... i almost choked on my chickin wing!
round 1 - kenny phillips
round 2 - campbell/green
round 3 - jordy nelson/marcus monk
round 3 - weak side LB
round 4 - that versitale OL guy 4get his name
round 5 - Any decent corner still out there
round 6 - QB
round 7 - another tall receiver
round 7 - OL depth
Joe Ribbs BBQ 04-02-2008, 06:49 PM comparing chAD JOHNSON - to brandon lloyd? ... i almost choked on my chickin wing!
round 1 - kenny phillips
round 2 - campbell/green
round 3 - jordy nelson/marcus monk
round 3 - weak side LB
round 4 - that versitale OL guy 4get his name
round 5 - Any decent corner still out there
round 6 - QB
round 7 - another tall receiver
round 7 - OL depth
Now that is a pipe dream but I would be quite ok with that
Dirtbag59 04-05-2008, 11:39 AM I don't know about you guys, but I just saw some highlights for Campbell, and man does he look fast. If anything he looks a lot quicker then Kentwaan Blamer when I saw footage of the guy on NFL Network. I think it's very possible that this guy ends up being our first pick. And given the conncection with the coach it's very possible that they might pass Merling, not saying I want them to just saying it's possible. Of course best scenario would be convincing Jacksonville to trade up.
YouTube - Calais Campbell...The U...1st round (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrpBqFA0hFI)
CPAlltheWay012 04-05-2008, 11:47 AM IMO.. Best case scenario:
Kenny Philips falls and the Skins can grab him.. and then Calais Campbell is available in the 2nd round.. (Although I wouldn't mind Erin Henderson from Maryland as a 2nd round pick at LB)
After that we could attack O-line positions and consider drafting a receiver..
SeanTaylor21 04-05-2008, 11:55 AM IMO.. Best case scenario:
Kenny Philips falls and the Skins can grab him.. and then Calais Campbell is available in the 2nd round.. (Although I wouldn't mind Erin Henderson from Maryland as a 2nd round pick at LB)
After that we could attack O-line positions and consider drafting a receiver..
I'm not too high on Kenny Phillips, because if we draft him, that pretty much pushes Reed Doughty into a backup job, and I really hoped that he would start. Calais Campbell in the 2nd would be nice, but in the first round I think we go after a WR, like Limas Sweed.
CPAlltheWay012 04-05-2008, 02:23 PM I'm not too high on Kenny Phillips, because if we draft him, that pretty much pushes Reed Doughty into a backup job, and I really hoped that he would start. Calais Campbell in the 2nd would be nice, but in the first round I think we go after a WR, like Limas Sweed.
Reed Doughty isn't a playmaker. We need a playmaker next to Laron Landry and someone with more range so we don't have that nonsense like 2006. Doughty is not a proven starter, but he DID execute as a backup and special teams where he should continue to play. I don't mean to "hate" on this guy either, because I liked the way he performed at the end of the year with pressure.
If it were me, I'd stay away from wide receivers in the draft. I'm not a fan of drafting these guys especially with our luck. Besides we really are overlooking ourselves here. Santana Moss and Antwaan Randel-El are both good receivers.. it just becomes a question of their health and size. They can't change their size but if they take extra steps in stretching, etc..they could limit their injuries. Complimenting them, at tight-end, is Chris Cooley who sometimes seems alot like a receiver with his route running. In fact teams are beginning to focus on trying to limit his touches per game. That leads to Anthony Mix who could do workouts in preparation for this year focusing on his hands and red-zone ability. I've seen some videos on him and I think he could be very talented and weapon for us this year if he has the proper work ethic.
Dirtbag59 04-05-2008, 05:25 PM Reed Doughty isn't a playmaker. We need a playmaker next to Laron Landry and someone with more range so we don't have that nonsense like 2006. Doughty is not a proven starter, but he DID execute as a backup and special teams where he should continue to play. I don't mean to "hate" on this guy either, because I liked the way he performed at the end of the year with pressure.
If it were me, I'd stay away from wide receivers in the draft. I'm not a fan of drafting these guys especially with our luck. Besides we really are overlooking ourselves here. Santana Moss and Antwaan Randel-El are both good receivers.. it just becomes a question of their health and size. They can't change their size but if they take extra steps in stretching, etc..they could limit their injuries. Complimenting them, at tight-end, is Chris Cooley who sometimes seems alot like a receiver with his route running. In fact teams are beginning to focus on trying to limit his touches per game. That leads to Anthony Mix who could do workouts in preparation for this year focusing on his hands and red-zone ability. I've seen some videos on him and I think he could be very talented and weapon for us this year if he has the proper work ethic.
No offense man, but the "we need a playmaker" line sounds like Madden speak in my book where you don't feel comfortable with your franchise unless most of the guys have a rating of at least 90(ok some offense, but still I don't mean it as a personal attack). The reason I would be for drafting Kenny Phillips is because I worry about the vauge possibility of something happening to Landry and given how much of an impact the safety position has had on our defense I am unopposed to taking a guy like Phillips. However at the same time whats the cost? Would it be passing up a DE like Merling or Campbell (I'm banking these days that the coaching staff can work with him)? Is it going to cost us a chance to draft a quality offensive lineman by trading away a third round pick to get back up into the running for Phillips or Campbell (should we try to nab both of them)? In the end I believe it depends on what we can get, but I'm definately for drafting a safety like Phillips over a corner.
CPAlltheWay012 04-05-2008, 10:51 PM No offense man, but the "we need a playmaker" line sounds like Madden speak in my book where you don't feel comfortable with your franchise unless most of the guys have a rating of at least 90(ok some offense, but still I don't mean it as a personal attack). The reason I would be for drafting Kenny Phillips is because I worry about the vauge possibility of something happening to Landry and given how much of an impact the safety position has had on our defense I am unopposed to taking a guy like Phillips. However at the same time whats the cost? Would it be passing up a DE like Merling or Campbell (I'm banking these days that the coaching staff can work with him)? Is it going to cost us a chance to draft a quality offensive lineman by trading away a third round pick to get back up into the running for Phillips or Campbell (should we try to nab both of them)? In the end I believe it depends on what we can get, but I'm definately for drafting a safety like Phillips over a corner.
I think that in the NFL, Safety is a much more valuable position than the D-Line or O-Line if your talking about just one player. Good safties are harder to come by than those positions on the line, and it seems that since O/D-Line is more of a "group" (pardon the phrase) workout--those other members on the line can sorta "hide" the weak spot. Where as safety, if you don't have two active players there's a great chance that you can be toast if teams can get behind you. That would certainly be the case in the NFL, as it would seem rules, etc. favor the offense.
That said, you make a great point to mention that if Laron got hurt, we'd be in trouble.. another reason, in my opinion, you might try to get Kenny Philips.
RMSkins 04-05-2008, 11:34 PM I would love to have Kenny Phillips, but I am not sure that he is worth the 21st overall pick, and he is definitely not going to be on the board by the time we pick in the 2nd. So getting Phillips seems unlikely to me. However I am a huge advocate of us bringing in a safety. I am just not sold on Reed Doughty as a starter at all. Another interesting safety prospect, that not a lot of people are talking about, is DaJuan Morgan from N.C. State- I think he could be better than Phillips and I would love to find a way for us to draft him.
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