my latest draft thoughts

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GTripp0012
03-25-2008, 11:59 PM
Well, can we assume anything about the FO's tendencies? Anything teams say at this point has to be taken with a grain of salt.

Blache said Corners are the cornerstone of defense, but he didn't say he thought we had a need there. Reading between the lines, I'd say it's less likely that we take a CB in the first.

If the value is there, I'm totally 100% all for it. But only if we grade a particular corner out as a top 10 player. If we grade him out as a top ten player, and he's there at 21, then by golly we better jump on him.

I don't think there's any chance we address WR before the third round. I mean, consider that the only FA we brought in and offered a contract to (under the assumption that we were trying to add him to the depth chart) was a WR. Assuming the team had a draft plan before free agency began, it's the reasonable conclusion to say that we weren't going to chase Hackett, and then also pick a WR on day 1.

Obviously, the logical conclusion is that we then put a majority of our scouting hours at the combine into players at other positions. Meaning that unless there's a great value on a WR, we will probably re-evaluate the remaining prospects after day one before considering spending a pick on one. To me, this is the closest train of thought I can have to the team's stance on WRs.

Obviously, we will select one at some point on day 2. We definately have the depth need there. I just don't see a lot of cues pointing to using a day one pick on a WR.

Ultimately, the Skins will make three selections where they will depend on the player to factor in to the long term plans. After that, you've just got to do the smart thing and just pick guys in the late rounds at any position that have a chance to contribute. Makes sense to grab the LB that fell over whatever is left at DL simply because we have a need there.

I totally follow your train of thought here, hopefully, I've added some deductive insight. Maybe I'm totally wrong, but at least I feel like I'm on to something. At the least, that in itself is good :)

GTripp0012
03-26-2008, 12:11 AM
Here are all the Day One draft picks for the Bears on defense in the Blache era:

Russell Davis-DT North Carolina
Brian Urlacher-LB New Mexico
Mike Brown-S Nebraska
Dustin Lyman-LB Wake Forest
Roosevelt Williams-CB Tuskeegee
Michael Haynes-DE Penn State
Charles Tillman-CB Louisiana Lafeyette
Lance Briggs-LB Arizona

Obviously the Bears did not put any particular premium on DBs while he was the coordinator there. I don't know how much draft influence he had, but it looks like they started in the front seven and tried to complete it with DBs, or at the very least spread the picks around the defense.

The success rate was a mixed bag. Urlacher, Brown, Briggs, and Tillman became the foundation of the great Bears defense of this decade. Williams, Haynes, Davis, and Lyman made zero impact in the league.

While I generally agree with Blache's assessment that Corners are the staple of any pass defense (and the importance of pass d trumps that of run d, that much we know), it doesn't help if you spend a high draft pick on a corner who is misvalued (thanks, Carlos).

I know you don't particularly advocate the value of corners, and are just going off what Blache says, but I don't think that statement makes it likely that the Skins will use a first round pick on a Corner unless the guy they want drops to them.

ChickenMonkey
03-26-2008, 01:18 AM
as the draft gets closer and its becomes more apparent that we will get our new talent on the team through the draft I have come up with a draft strategy that we can use to address all our need and get some value, I will lay it out there and ask the board to tell me what you think.

1st Round CB Aquib Talib
2nd Round WR Mario Manningham
3rd Round DE JAson Jones
3rd Round SS Josh Barrett
5th Round OLB Ezra Butler
6th Round CB Jack Ikegwonu(ingured before combine....great value here
7th Round OG Chris McDuffie(huge...
7th Round OG/T Pedro Sosa

Good Use of every pick..................

30gut
03-26-2008, 03:05 AM
7 (comp): Bobbie Williams Bethune Cookman S
Why: Has the motor and intensity of a blue chiper he is worth the late round pick.HE hits like a monster look him up on you tube!

Honorable mention: Jamie Silva S Boston College- the kid has heart and would work well with landry.

So tell me what ya think!

Interesting picks. Here's another D-AA safety for you to look at: Corey Lynch(freakin interception magnet) the best safety in D-1 AA
YouTube - Corey Lynch #47 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=AQZqkcubYjQ)

Corey*Lynch, FS, Appalachian State - 2008 NFL Draft Scout Profile, Powered by The SportsXchange (http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/profile.php?pyid=25454)

ASU’s Corey Lynch Heads Final Buchanan Watch List - SoConSports.com—Official Web Site of The Southern Conference (http://www.soconsports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=4000&ATCLID=1324511)

SeanTaylor21
03-26-2008, 07:42 AM
Interesting picks. Here's another D-AA safety for you to look at: Corey Lynch(freakin interception magnet) the best safety in D-1 AA
YouTube - Corey Lynch #47 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=AQZqkcubYjQ)

Corey*Lynch, FS, Appalachian State - 2008 NFL Draft Scout Profile, Powered by The SportsXchange (http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/profile.php?pyid=25454)

ASU’s Corey Lynch Heads Final Buchanan Watch List - SoConSports.com—Official Web Site of The Southern Conference (http://www.soconsports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=4000&ATCLID=1324511)

I wouldn't mind drafting that kid, he looks good in that video, but his competition didn't look all that amazing.

MTK
03-26-2008, 08:52 AM
What does everyone think of taking a flyer on John David Booty? I'm not sure I would want him as early as the 3rd round but if he slips he could be an interesting pickup later on.

TheMalcolmConnection
03-26-2008, 09:20 AM
Interesting picks. Here's another D-AA safety for you to look at: Corey Lynch(freakin interception magnet) the best safety in D-1 AA
YouTube - Corey Lynch #47 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=AQZqkcubYjQ)

Corey*Lynch, FS, Appalachian State - 2008 NFL Draft Scout Profile, Powered by The SportsXchange (http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/profile.php?pyid=25454)

ASU’s Corey Lynch Heads Final Buchanan Watch List - SoConSports.com—Official Web Site of The Southern Conference (http://www.soconsports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=4000&ATCLID=1324511)

Wasn't Reed Doughty the best safety in AA last year?

MTK
03-26-2008, 09:44 AM
Reed came out in 2006.

TheMalcolmConnection
03-26-2008, 09:53 AM
Man, that long already? Crazy.

GTripp0012
03-26-2008, 11:46 AM
What does everyone think of taking a flyer on John David Booty? I'm not sure I would want him as early as the 3rd round but if he slips he could be an interesting pickup later on.Poor prospect. Maybe in the sixth round, but it's hard for me to believe someone wouldn't have grabbed him before then. If no one has...that should be a pretty big red flag.

But 6th round will be the first time I feel anyone could get value on Booty.

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