This is a GOOD reason why we shouldn't touch a WR in the 1st.

They were talking about this guy WAY before the combine...so that's not really a valid argument. He was going to be a top five pick the minute he graduated. If you're trying to make the argument that had his combine performance been mediocre, he would have slid...well, that argument applies to everyone in the draft. I'm not saying we should put this guy's bust in Canton just yet...but to say that he isn't good, or that he's overrated..or to say that he only had THREE good games in college is utterly ridiculous.

BTW...which three games are you referring to..I may have missed it in another post


there we go! agree 100%

I really haven't seen too many players that have that "Wow" effect on me. Trade our first round for an extra second, and third.

im so sorry my opinion doesn't jive with your man love for Chris Long. nice post. all im saying that if his combine workout wasn't off the charts, no one is talking about him in the first round. we can agree to disagree

see the thread about Bram's blog. In it he says that Cerrato attended Long's pro day & it wasn't "overly impressive" yet picking him 1st overall was a "no brainer." so count us among the teams that would take him if we had the chance.

There are always guys in college sports that seem to have it all, but for whatever reason can't reach that level in the pros. Of course there's a chance that Long might be another mamula, who actually wasn't bad he just didn't live up to his hype.

I wouldn't disagree w/you so much about Long if you offered some specifics, or even if you just said something like, 'my gut tells me he's not gonna be that good.'

Based on all the real evidence though, Long has all the attributes to be a good pro.

hard to argue againts long as the #1 even, let alone as a bust... i think mcfadden will have a rough time if he's playing behind a crappy O line, i don't like a lot of the WRs, including sweed (bleh) and desean jackson (tiny).

there's only 3 DEs i'd really want in the first: golston, long, and harvey.

Long reminds me of another guy with a high motor, Grant Winstrom. a serviceable player, but far from a stud

Long reminds me of another guy with a high motor, Grant Winstrom. a serviceable player, but far from a stud I was thinking more like a Patrick Kerney, who (imo) IS a stud! (man that sounded gay)




And GM D! Hope all is well.

From what I understand, it's a pretty deep draft for receivers. I don't see why we can't get a quality one in the second or third rounds. Save that first-rounder for a defensive lineman or cornerback.

From what I understand, it's a pretty deep draft for receivers. I don't see why we can't get a quality one in the second or third rounds. Save that first-rounder for a defensive lineman or cornerback.

Sounds like the common thinking among the scouts is that this is a relatively deep class of wr's but w/a lot of parity & no real 'can't miss' guy like CJ last year. Seems everybody has an issue; Desean Jackson's size, Sweed's wrist injury, etc.

that said, I would agree that we can probably get good value in the 2nd or 3rd rounds. It would be sweet if we could trade down & get more picks. Smootsmack mentioned in another thread that Atl. might want to do that w/their 2nd round picks as they have 2 or 3 of them, assuming the Hall deal goes through.

Sounds like the common thinking among the scouts is that this is a relatively deep class of wr's but w/a lot of parity & no real 'can't miss' guy like CJ last year. Seems everybody has an issue; Desean Jackson's size, Sweed's wrist injury, etc.

that said, I would agree that we can probably get good value in the 2nd or 3rd rounds. It would be sweet if we could trade down & get more picks. Smootsmack mentioned in another thread that Atl. might want to do that w/their 2nd round picks as they have 2 or 3 of them, assuming the Hall deal goes through.

I'm on that same boat with ya. I really hope someone falls to us at 21 that the Atlanta Falcons will want to trade back into the 1st@21 and hopefully we can pick up a couple of them good picks they have.

I hope we pick the best defensive player available in the 1st (unless is Albert)
and If we trade our 1st, hopefully we will receive a high 2nd and I would love to take a chance on Hardy with a 2nd round pick.

My ideal Sitation would look like this:

Round 1[21] - Traded down for a high 2nd and a 3rd/4th OR Best Defensive Player Available.(Unless its Albert)

I'm not sure it's as simple as that. I mean if Champ Bailey and Troy Polamalu were on the same team, and each missed five games (not together) can you definitively say that the team would be better off in the five games Champ missed?

But more importantly, you're not the defensive coordinator of the Redskins. And neither am I. Greg Blache is. And Mr. Blaches says:

"A lot of people disagree with me on this but I firmly believe that in order to be successful on defense in today's football it starts with your corner position."

Blache Talks Philosophy: Cornerbacks Are Key (http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=9966)

Are you seriousley going to take the word of an experienced NFL coordinator over mine? This is blasphamy. I have a blog. :D

In all seriousness I would be one of the people that disagree with Blache (obviously). So with that said I would much rather have a guy like Kenny Phillips instead of a guy like DRC, who I'll admit is tempting. However I'd rather have two safetys knocking the crap out of people coming over the middle and providing support on the deep ball then two corners of the same caliber. I guess from my perspective I just see safetys more involved throughout the course of a game.

I'd also argue that guys like Polomalu, Reed, and Bob Sanders have had a bigger impact on the game then Champ Bailey, Chris McAlister, Rasheen Mathis, and Nate Clements. Especially considering that we live in an a time where corners aren't allowed to be nearly as physical as they were, say 10 years ago.

However its obvious that the beliefs of the Defensive Coordinator, who was promised a good amount of power will have a pretty loud voice on draft day when it comes to drafting defensive players and if that voice calls for the team to take a corner on draft day, then so be it.