Stacks42
03-13-2008, 01:27 PM
WOW. That was a great article. I learned even more about Sean and I'm even more impressed by his character.
I thought the same thing. Its really a shame that not many people knew the real sean until after his passing.
oldhog44
03-13-2008, 02:44 PM
Are comments like this really necessary? It would be nice if incidents such as this, and NIU and VT etc., could lead to some sort of elevated discussion but it seems to often to lead to a race to the bottom. I guess if that somehow makes you feel better, but it doesn't seem to add much at all and avoids any real engagement with any of the issues in play.
At least Wilbon raised a legitimate issue (read full here Wilbon: Dying young, and black, in America - NFL - MSNBC.com (http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/22008724/)), and did it a little better than most (and I was pissed at him too, even wrote him a long email and wrote something to LaConfora too Guest Blog - Ehren - Redskins Insider (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2007/11/guest_blog_ehren.html)) but apart from some of his hyperbole ("I wasn't surprised...") at least he had a point to make and suggested a larger context was necessary to understand this tragedy. I think that if you actually take some time to contemplate what he was saying, in light of the little bit of perspective we now have, it was not totally absurd.
The reflexive response seen in the immediate aftermath of the crime from blowhards like Cowherd et al. (and even Wilbon) was off the mark in that they ignored everything we knew (or had a sense of and learned more about) about Sean Taylor (the blog from JLC on his conversation with Renaldo Wynn comes to mind Renaldo Wynn And Sean - Redskins Insider (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2007/12/renaldo_wynn_and_sean.html)). But what you have to appreciate, and what is perhaps more tragic, is that the last part of Wilbon's column does seem to ring true.
IF what we have heard is true, then the people who meant to rob Sean Taylor and who murdered Sean Taylor, were linked to him through his sister and one had been to the house to attend a party for a boyfriend of hers. So it wasn't a 'gang hit' or someone getting retribution for some ATVs, but there was a connection. That places, perhaps, in even deeper relief what Wilbon was saying. Because how hard is it to leave not only boyhood friends but to distance yourself from your own family? Certainly it says that as a professional athlete, or anyone else of means, you have to tread extremely lightly and be guarded in those you let near you. I'm not blaming the victim here, but it is also a bit too easy to just say 'Wilbon is an idiot I hate him' and 'I hope those punk bitches get raped in jail' (seriously?) then to actually think about the complexities of lived experience.
"It would be nice if incidents such as this, and NIU and VT etc., could lead to some sort of elevated discussion" ............ Are u shittin me, thats what you want out of those incidents is an elevated discussion.. Man ura over educated DA.....It doesnt matter where he was from who his friends were or what color he was or his background ... Piss on those MFR's ! And anybody else who commits crimes of that nature or against children etc. You need to pull that diploma out of your ass, quit talking fancy and come down from the cloud.
sbaughone
03-13-2008, 03:17 PM
<<I really lost a lot of respect of Michael Wilbon. He should've come out and made some type of apology. But I guess he's gotten too big for that.>>
Ditto to that bro. I'm still pissed at Wilbon. Sean was a special dude. We celebrate the same birthday...I will always say a prayer for him on that day. Reading that article really brought it all back.
It really changed the season for me (and I am sure many of you) when Sean was killed. I really have not had the same interest level in things..........football since.
I find it disappointing that it no longer has media appeal, and is basically forgotten about now that the "new" is gone from it. It continues to amaze and disgust, how cheap life is in this country, and how tawdry, and indifferent we can be to the loss of it.
jsarno
03-13-2008, 04:46 PM
I still don't get why they broke into the bedroom and shot Taylor. It doesn't sound like a burglary gone wrong to me...it sounds like they were there for a reason other than burglary.
Monkeydad
03-13-2008, 04:50 PM
I still don't get why they broke into the bedroom and shot Taylor. It doesn't sound like a burglary gone wrong to me...it sounds like they were there for a reason other than burglary.
The knife on the bed a week prior seems to indicate so.
Sheriff Gonna Getcha
03-13-2008, 04:58 PM
The knife on the bed a week prior seems to indicate so.
Supposedly, the knife was left on the bed because the defendants were using it to try to pry things open. They went into the bedroom because that is where Taylor kept his money. They told police they did not expect Taylor to be home. So, they were going after the money in the bedroom, ran across Taylor, and fired in panic. At least, that's the most plausible theory. There doesn't seem to be any indication they intended to kill Taylor.
SC Skins Fan
03-13-2008, 06:06 PM
"It would be nice if incidents such as this, and NIU and VT etc., could lead to some sort of elevated discussion" ............ Are u shittin me, thats what you want out of those incidents is an elevated discussion.. Man ura over educated DA.....It doesnt matter where he was from who his friends were or what color he was or his background ... Piss on those MFR's ! And anybody else who commits crimes of that nature or against children etc. You need to pull that diploma out of your ass, quit talking fancy and come down from the cloud.
Well said!
hagams
03-13-2008, 06:10 PM
I guess that's the kind of world we live in today. It's so much easier to take something that's not yours, instead of working hard to get it. It's a damn shame, and it makes me really sad thinking about our country this way.
He Hate Me
03-13-2008, 08:29 PM
Makes me sick (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/03/12/bc.fbn.redskins.taylors.ap/index.html).
What a complete shit bag! I'm still angry about it.