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Gmanc711 03-04-2008, 10:48 PM I guess my question is, really the main guy we lost last year was Derrick Dockery....but we also signed Fletcher/Smoot.....so wouldnt we have signed just as highly stouted FA's as the one loss of Dockery?
I mean, I'm not complianing, cause that would be awsome, but does anyone know how exactly this is figured out before I get too excited?
T.O.Killa 03-04-2008, 10:52 PM I guess my question is, really the main guy we lost last year was Derrick Dockery....but we also signed Fletcher/Smoot.....so wouldnt we have signed just as highly stouted FA's as the one loss of Dockery?
I mean, I'm not complianing, cause that would be awsome, but does anyone know how exactly this is figured out before I get too excited?
Duckett, Wright, and Dockery.
SmootSmack 03-04-2008, 10:52 PM I guess my question is, really the main guy we lost last year was Derrick Dockery....but we also signed Fletcher/Smoot.....so wouldnt we have signed just as highly stouted FA's as the one loss of Dockery?
I mean, I'm not complianing, cause that would be awsome, but does anyone know how exactly this is figured out before I get too excited?
Well I think the main point in all this is Dockery's large salary
Also, I don't think Smoot counts because the Vikings released him
Sheriff Gonna Getcha 03-04-2008, 10:58 PM It looks like I may, yet again, have egg all over my face. I have been under what seems to be a mistaken impression, i.e., that the Redskins will never get a nice compensatory pick.
SKINSnCANES 03-04-2008, 11:02 PM so really the nfl draft is 8 rounds long, not 7, I never picked up on that (a round being defined as 32 picks, one for each team)
Sheriff Gonna Getcha 03-04-2008, 11:08 PM Apparently the formula for determining what, if any, compensatory draft picks each club shall receive is not available to the public. Section 10 (http://www.nflpa.org/cba/cba_pdf/Article_XVI_College_Draft.pdf)of Article XVI of the NFL Collective Bargaining Agreement simply states, "The rules and procedures regarding Compensatory Draft Selections ... shall be as agreed upon by the NFL and the NFLPA." According to a 2004 article (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=2798269) written by ESPN's John Clayton, "The NFL Management Council determines the number and value of the compensatory picks, and it guards the secrecy of its compensatory formula like Coke guards its secret recipe. This much is known: The NFL formula is based on salary, playing time, postseason awards and the net of free agents lost versus free agents signed."
So we likely will not know what, if any, compensatory draft selections we will get until after the Annual Meeting at the end of this month. A 3rd rounder would certainly be nice though.
SmootSmack 03-04-2008, 11:13 PM Apparently the formula for determining what, if any, compensatory draft picks each club shall receive is not available to the public. Section 10 (http://www.nflpa.org/cba/cba_pdf/Article_XVI_College_Draft.pdf)of Article XVI of the NFL Collective Bargaining Agreement simply states, "The rules and procedures regarding Compensatory Draft Selections ... shall be as agreed upon by the NFL and the NFLPA." According to a 2004 article (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=2798269) written by ESPN's John Clayton, "The NFL Management Council determines the number and value of the compensatory picks, and it guards the secrecy of its compensatory formula like Coke guards its secret recipe. This much is known: The NFL formula is based on salary, playing time, postseason awards and the net of free agents lost versus free agents signed."
So we likely will not know what, if any, compensatory draft selections we will get until after the Annual Meeting at the end of this month. A 3rd rounder would certainly be nice though.
True, but the guy whose article I linked to seems to have a pretty good track record of predicting who is getting picks. Not perfect, but certainly seems very reliable
That Guy 03-04-2008, 11:16 PM this guy has an EXTREMELY good track record. he's been dead on for the skins the last two years (which are the only two years i've checked), so i'd place some weight on his opinion.
Sheriff Gonna Getcha 03-04-2008, 11:17 PM True, but the guy whose article I linked to seems to have a pretty good track record of predicting who is getting picks. Not perfect, but certainly seems very reliable
Yeah, I read the article after it was posted on a thread on ES. The guy certainly seems to know what he is talking about, but I guess I just won't believe we will get an extra 3rd rounder until the NFL announces the compensatory draft pick awards.
That Guy 03-04-2008, 11:18 PM its FA signed, FA's lost, contract values, etc
a bunch of nfl guys get in a dark room and figure it out, so it's not an exact science, but they do seem to follow guidelines fairly closely.
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