Now that Favre is officially done, where does he rank all time?

Top 10 for me.. He's not above (from my lifetime) Montana, Unitas, Elway, Brady not to even mention older NFL vets.. He greatly benefited from a wide open era, favorable offensive rules and expansion (also know as dilution) allowing him to play longer against weaker comp than the old timers. I know Brady has those same parameters, but he has more jewelry.

You should have heard Solomon Wilcots on NFL Radio talking about him. It was like Jesus had just retired from religion. He was saying he was the best there ever was, that Hollywood will be calling for a movie on his life story, blah, blah, blah..

I'm sorry, but no way Elway ranks over Favre. There's just no way. I can see others (too early on Brady though), but not Elway.

I'm sorry, but no way Elway ranks over Favre. There's just no way. I can see others (too early on Brady though), but not Elway.

How many super bowls did Elway go to, four?

Top 20, probably not Top 10. Here are eight guys that IMO are hands down better: Peyton Manning, Brady, Marino, Elway, Baugh, Graham, Unitas, Montana.

Others to discuss; Steve Young, Aikman, Tarkenton, Kelly. Favre was very good, but many of his numbers are inflated because he was so durable and played so long (not bad things, but they do inflate stats).

I can understand that.
For me, I put him top 3. My reasoning why is the fact that he did not do things like everyone else. He'd throw that shovel pass, or throw deep off his back foot. While that is dumb, it worked for him. To me, what counteracts the int's is the fact that he was by far the toughest QB to ever live.
I wonder if 5 years from now, if Favre will be my #1?

I'm with you on this....and my argument for him being #1 is that he never had a really GREAT receiver or receivers....Montana had Rice, Marino had Duper & Clayton early on when he put up the big numbers, Mannings had Wayne & Harrison, etc....much the same type of comparison that Gibbs won 3 Superbowls with 3 different qbs....he just won and had so much fun doing it....he always looked like a kid out there when they won. I will say Brady is following him closely....3 Super Bowls with no great receivers....and look at the numbers he put up when he got one....but it didn't get him a 4th......yet.

Favre was very good, but many of his numbers are inflated because he was so durable and played so long (not bad things, but they do inflate stats).

But he shouldn't be punished for that. If anything it should be the opposite, I'd think. I mean would you rank Kurt Warner one of the game's bests because of 1999 (and maybe 2001?)

I'm sorry, but no way Elway ranks over Favre. There's just no way. I can see others (too early on Brady though), but not Elway.

Absolutely Elway, 5 SB over the life of his career including 2 wins, the king of the comeback victory (47 career), had running skills (7 seasons over 200 yds rushing) and passing (7 seasons over 3,000 yards).. Dude is a legend..

Somewhere between #5 and #9 all time, I would say.

I wouldn't rank him above Steve Young, Dan Marino, Joe Montana, or Roger Staubach, and then you would at least have to consider Sammy Baugh, Otto Graham, and Bart Starr right in there depending on how you value their era-dominant performances against the fact that they may not have stood out if they played in the modern era. Also, Jim Kelly to me is right there, neck and neck with Favre, and it'd be tough to pick one over the other.

I also think Peyton Manning will finish his career above Favre on my all-time list, and Tom Brady very well might also.

Absolutely Elway, 5 SB over the life of his career including 2 wins, the king of the comeback victory (47 career), had running skills (7 seasons over 200 yds rushing) and passing (7 seasons over 3,000 yards).. Dude is a legend..Elway is overrated. He's definately was a great player who came up clutch a bunch of times in his career, but Farve (even on a per play basis) totally wipes his ass in all statistical categories, including MVPs won.

Elway had a long and successful career with lots of historic moments. His career just wasn't quite as good as Favres.

But he shouldn't be punished for that. If anything it should be the opposite, I'd think. I mean would you rank Kurt Warner one of the game's bests because of 1999 (and maybe 2001?)What Warner did at the turn of the century should classify him as one of the games greats. Should 3 excellent years put him in the top 20 of all time? Probably not. But a lot of the other guys had the benefit of stability that Warner never had. He still performed well in bad situations after St. Louis, and that's the mark of a great player. Not historically great, but great.

I'm all for giving Favre the benefit of the doubt due to longevity, but I'm a firm believer that a QB should be graded by his 3-5 best years, and not by how long he played. Too much of the latter is based on circumstance (injuries, coaching stability, QB depth chart).

Elway is overrated. He's definately was a great player who came up clutch a bunch of times in his career, but Farve (even on a per play basis) totally wipes his ass in all statistical categories, including MVPs won.

Elway had a long and successful career with lots of historic moments. His career just wasn't quite as good as Favres.

I tend to agree with that.