budw38
03-06-2008, 08:22 AM
You can tell you don't pay attention to the posts, because you would realize that you have spelt defense wrong several times.
So I guess the Skins defense sucked this past year cause we let up 50 some odd points to the Pats right? I guess we should strip the Giants of their SB win cause they let up 45 to the Cowboys, 41 to the Vikings, and 38 to the patriots?
I guess the previous 17 or 18 games for the Broncos mean nothing, but the one game vs the best team they had to face means everything to you. Didn't realize you'd be judged SOLELY on 1 game and not the 18 or so that lead up to it.
That is a crazy statement to say that Elway didn't blow games. Until you prove that statement, I will consider it blind love for Elway. EVERY QB has lost games, and Elway did too.
I already pointed out that Favre threw 145 go ahead tds to Elway's only 103. AND I pointed out that Favre played better in the playoffs. What more do you need? You don't get 42 more go ahead TDs by choking buddy.
You can't ignore EVERYTHING and just point out super bowls (something that is a TEAM issue, not individual). That's the ONLY thing Elway has him in. You can ignore all the stats, MVPs, all pros all you want, but it doesn't make Elway better.
By your logic, Trent Dilfer was better than Dan Marino since Dilfer has a championship, and Marino does not. You seem like a logical poster, so I emplore you to open your mind and see this objectively. I'am not judging either qb based on one game or season . You made the point about Denver having better talent and defense than Green Bay .It is up to you to prove Elway blew big games ? What game did he throw away? Denver always struggled to stop better teams from scoring during the 80's , Cleveland scored 31 in one championship game < would have been 38 without the fumble > . Name one playoff game where Elway threw an Int that cost his team ? Favre , Rams 6 int's , Falcons 3 , Philly the " Punt " and his missing a chance to win the SB vs Denver. The fact that Favre threw for more yards and TD's does not itself make him better than Elway or Manning , Montana ,ect . I agree with you Favre is an awesome , top 5 all time , top ten , HOF Qb. I just see Montana , Elway , Marino and Bradshaw as the guys who " seemed "to always come through in the clutch . As far as Marino , I have already stated I think he is one of the top 3-5 qb's ever , He like Elway had teams that had defense's that got pushed around . I judge these guys by what I watched on the field , not yards , comp % and TD's . You are the guy posting the TD's and yards are everything .
The only difference that I see in Favre and the other HOF's is that I watched Favre throw the critical INT's with the game on the line as I and others have already pointed out . So , you and I don't see eye to eye , I have had fun reading all of the post's . Montana , Elway , Bradshaw , Staubach , Marino , Favre , Manning . I did not see Graham , Unitas , Namath and not enough of Sonny J. . Kosar , J. Hart , K. Anderson , L. Dawsen were all great .
So I guess the Skins defense sucked this past year cause we let up 50 some odd points to the Pats right? I guess we should strip the Giants of their SB win cause they let up 45 to the Cowboys, 41 to the Vikings, and 38 to the patriots?
I guess the previous 17 or 18 games for the Broncos mean nothing, but the one game vs the best team they had to face means everything to you. Didn't realize you'd be judged SOLELY on 1 game and not the 18 or so that lead up to it.
That is a crazy statement to say that Elway didn't blow games. Until you prove that statement, I will consider it blind love for Elway. EVERY QB has lost games, and Elway did too.
I already pointed out that Favre threw 145 go ahead tds to Elway's only 103. AND I pointed out that Favre played better in the playoffs. What more do you need? You don't get 42 more go ahead TDs by choking buddy.
You can't ignore EVERYTHING and just point out super bowls (something that is a TEAM issue, not individual). That's the ONLY thing Elway has him in. You can ignore all the stats, MVPs, all pros all you want, but it doesn't make Elway better.
By your logic, Trent Dilfer was better than Dan Marino since Dilfer has a championship, and Marino does not. You seem like a logical poster, so I emplore you to open your mind and see this objectively. I'am not judging either qb based on one game or season . You made the point about Denver having better talent and defense than Green Bay .It is up to you to prove Elway blew big games ? What game did he throw away? Denver always struggled to stop better teams from scoring during the 80's , Cleveland scored 31 in one championship game < would have been 38 without the fumble > . Name one playoff game where Elway threw an Int that cost his team ? Favre , Rams 6 int's , Falcons 3 , Philly the " Punt " and his missing a chance to win the SB vs Denver. The fact that Favre threw for more yards and TD's does not itself make him better than Elway or Manning , Montana ,ect . I agree with you Favre is an awesome , top 5 all time , top ten , HOF Qb. I just see Montana , Elway , Marino and Bradshaw as the guys who " seemed "to always come through in the clutch . As far as Marino , I have already stated I think he is one of the top 3-5 qb's ever , He like Elway had teams that had defense's that got pushed around . I judge these guys by what I watched on the field , not yards , comp % and TD's . You are the guy posting the TD's and yards are everything .
The only difference that I see in Favre and the other HOF's is that I watched Favre throw the critical INT's with the game on the line as I and others have already pointed out . So , you and I don't see eye to eye , I have had fun reading all of the post's . Montana , Elway , Bradshaw , Staubach , Marino , Favre , Manning . I did not see Graham , Unitas , Namath and not enough of Sonny J. . Kosar , J. Hart , K. Anderson , L. Dawsen were all great .